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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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 Posted - 16 Mar 2007 : 06:57:33
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Well as many of the regulars know I run an FR campaign for my players but I also play in an Eberron campaign, this campaign has unfortunatly collpsed which has left me without an chance to sit on the other side of the DM screen. So I suggested to one of my players that he run Cormyr, Shadowdale and Anauroch and he said he'd think about. I decided to be optimistic start putting together a character for this hypotehtical campaign. My ideas for the character are posted below
Im an old school Cavalier player so I decided to go with the Knight class which Ive been dyin to try out
Cormyr Tearing of the weave is designed for 4th level party so Ive made the assumption that if the campaign is run he'll start us at 4th level
Stats are generated using 25 point buy
Option 1 The Pure Knight
Delcar: Human Knight 4
Stats
S 14
I 10
W 10
C 15
D 10
Ch 14
Feats
1st (2) Armour Profiency Tower Shield, Exotic weapon profiency Bastard sword or weapon focus Long sword
2nd: Mounted Combat (Free Knight Feat)
3rd: Improved Toughness
4th: Put the Ability increase into Con
Option 1 The Fighting Knight
Delcar: Human Fighter 1 Knight 3
Stats
S 14
I 10
W 10
C 15
D 10
Ch 14
Feats
1st (3)Exotic weapon profiency Bastard sword, Weapon Focus Bastard Sword, Furious charge (Cormyr regional feat)
2nd: Mounted Combat (Free Knight Feat)
3rd: Improved Toughness
4th: Put the Ability increase into Con
For either option I will probably aim for the Purple Dragon Knight PrC unless anyone can think of another Knight friendly PrC
Im leaning towards option 2 as 1 level of Fighter gives me Tower Shield profiency for free and an extra feat.
Im also debating whether I should focus on Longswords instead of the Bastard Sword which would free up another feat
Any ideas?
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Bluenose
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Mar 2007 : 18:28:12
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Stats are generated using 25 point buy
Option 1 The Pure Knight
Delcar: Human Knight 4
Stats
S 14
I 10
W 10
C 15
D 10
Ch 14
Feats
1st (2) Armour Profiency Tower Shield, Exotic weapon profiency Bastard sword or weapon focus Long sword
2nd: Mounted Combat (Free Knight Feat)
3rd: Improved Toughness
4th: Put the Ability increase into Con
I wouldn't go with Tower Shield Proficiency myself, it seems like an unnecessary waste of what will be a limited number of feats. If you really want to go for Purple Dragon Knight then you need to take the Negotiator feat, and this is as good a time to take it as any. A reasonable alternative is Furious Charge, which is quite powerful and which your second option has. Alternatively, it's never to early to start thinking about a prestige class, and there are some rather interesting ones. 
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Option 2 The Fighting Knight
Delcar: Human Fighter 1 Knight 3
Stats
S 14
I 10
W 10
C 15
D 10
Ch 14
Feats
1st (3)Exotic weapon profiency Bastard sword, Weapon Focus Bastard Sword, Furious charge (Cormyr regional feat)
2nd: Mounted Combat (Free Knight Feat)
3rd: Improved Toughness
4th: Put the Ability increase into Con
PDK does require Negotiator, if that's what you're aiming for. Alternatively, Shield Specialisation (PHB2) would give you +1 to your AC bonus with a particular type of shield.
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For either option I will probably aim for the Purple Dragon Knight PrC unless anyone can think of another Knight friendly PrC
The obvious one is Cavalier (CW). Requires BAB+8; Lawful Alignment; Handle animal 4, Knowledge (nobility and royalty) 4, Ride 8; Monuted Combat, Ride by Attack, Spirited Charge, Weapon Focus (Lance). This isn't hard for a Knight to gain, but almost everything about the class assumes that you'll be fighting mounted all the time.
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Im leaning towards option 2 as 1 level of Fighter gives me Tower Shield profiency for free and an extra feat.
Im also debating whether I should focus on Longswords instead of the Bastard Sword which would free up another feat
Any ideas?
Hospitaller (CD). You need BAB +5; Handle Animal 5, Ride 5; non-chaotic; cast 1st level divine spells.
You get into it by taking 5 levels of Knight and 1 level of Favoured Soul. You can get the skills with no difficulty, you can't be chatoic as a knight, and the BAB is accounted for. The favoured soul level gives you the first level spellcasting you need.
The advantages of having a level of favoured soul are:
Spellcasting. The favoured soul uses Ch as their main requirement, and that's useful to a knight. They aren't affected by armour either.
Saving throws. The favoured soul has three good saves.
Proficiencies. A favoured soul is proficient with their deities preferred weapon, so a favoured soul of Kelemvor would be proficient with bastard sword. In fact with three levels they'd get free weapon focus with the weapon.
The Hospitaller gives you:
Full BAB.
The ability to Lay on Hands, which depends partly on ch. You can also Remove Disease.
More spellcasting, 7 levels if you go to Hospitaller 10.
Three bonus feats from the fighter selection.
If you were to go with the Hospitaller option the one big disadvantage is that the 1st level of favoured soul has 0 BAB, so you'd always be slightly behind in attack rolls and in gaining iterative attacks. This isn't a huge disadvantage but it's something to be aware of.
If you did think of going this way I'd suggest the character and level progression should be soemthing like this.
S 14, I 10, W 10, Co 15, D 10, Ch 14
Knight 1 - Shield specialisation (heavy), Furious Charge
Knight 2 - Mounted Combat (bonus)
Favoured Soul 1 - Improved Toughness
Knight 3 - +1 to Con
Take Ride by Attack at 6th level, or swap it with Improved Toughness if you're facing lots of mounted combat.
I hope that's some help. I hope you do get a game under way, as a regular DM I always like being the other side of the screen when I have a chance to be. |
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The hour when earth's foundations fled,
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 16 Mar 2007 : 23:34:00
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According to PGTF the only feats you need to qualify for the PDK are Leadership and mounted combat
the Cavalier PrC is to mount specialised and Im looking at a Non spellcasting character the other PrC I was thinking about was the Weapons master |
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Bluenose
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Mar 2007 : 14:11:17
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Originally posted by Dargoth
According to PGTF the only feats you need to qualify for the PDK are Leadership and mounted combat
Sorry, I was looking at the version in Complete Warrior. It does look like a good class to get into.
the Cavalier PrC is to mount specialised and Im looking at a Non spellcasting character the other PrC I was thinking about was the Weapons master
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IIRC Weapon Master requires Whirlwind Attack, so you'll need 13+ for Int and Dex. I don't think it's worth it if that's the case.
It might be worth looking into Exotic Weapon Master (CW). It's a three level prestige class with entry requirements of Exotic Weapon Proficiency and EW Focus, and some fairly easy skill requirements. Your second option with the fighter level has that. It gives you full BAB, a good Fortitutde save, and three special abilities from a fairly wide range. Many of these are more suitable for a double weapon user, but there are others that work well with a bastard sword.
Otherwise I'm not sure I'd move out of Knight much if at all. I would look at feats such as Shield Specialisation and at higher levels perhaps Armour Specialisation. Shield Ward can also be helpful. |
These, in the day when heaven was falling,
The hour when earth's foundations fled,
Followed their mercenary calling
And took their wages and are dead.
Their shoulders held the sky suspended;
They stood, and earth's foundations stay;
What God abandoned, these defended,
And saved the sum of things for pay. |
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Running a Knight in Cormyr: Tearing of the Weave
