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Mazrim_Taim
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Posted - 28 Nov 2005 :  01:21:26  Show Profile  Visit Mazrim_Taim's Homepage Send Mazrim_Taim a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Like the one that comes in the back of the 3.0 FR Campaign setting. The reason why I ask is that I recently lost my book, and so I bought a used one on ebay. I even asked the guy if it had the map and he told me yes...but it got here and the map was tore out =(

Is there anywhere to download the big map? I need it really badly.

And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood

The Sage
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The 1e/2e FRCS contained large world maps.

The FR Atlas (both electronic and hardcopy) have maps of the world also. And there are several older versions copied online as well.

And there was the large-FR poster map series from DRAGON as well -- in four part (issues #287-290.) Try paizo.com or nobleknight.com or dragontrove.com for the specific back issues.

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EvilKnight
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Posted - 28 Nov 2005 :  16:11:44  Show Profile  Visit EvilKnight's Homepage Send EvilKnight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you need to find something on the map, go to http://evilknight.home.att.net/FRCS/index.htm. Anything that has FRCS/MoF refers to 'page' of the map delineated by the fold marks. Forgive the poor formatting. It looks good in Firefox and Safari on a monitor in high resolution. Having trouble coming up with a CSS stylesheet setting that works for all three browsers.

Note that the FRCS listings are not near complete.

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Wooly Rupert
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In that case, for the legal safety of the Keep, I'd suggest removing the links.

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Talanfir Swiftfeet
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Posted - 28 Nov 2005 :  18:10:02  Show Profile  Visit Talanfir Swiftfeet's Homepage Send Talanfir Swiftfeet a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I just removed my post that contained a link to a faerun map because of the legal safety of the keep.
Sorry if I caused any trouble (legal or otherkind) for the wise sages of Candlekeep.
Maybe if you want to get a good map of faerun you can go to the www.wizards.com and search for smaller maps and then glue them together with a painting program.

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Vangelor
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An unprincipled person would notice whether their local bookseller has shrink-wrapped the FRCS... but you didn't hear that from me.
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Mazrim_Taim
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Posted - 29 Nov 2005 :  11:59:31  Show Profile  Visit Mazrim_Taim's Homepage Send Mazrim_Taim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I ordered an old 2nd edition (I think) CD-ROM called Forgotten Realms Atlas. Supposedly it has over 500 maps that are printable. It should be here soon

I just hope it has some good maps of the Western Hearlands, particularly the area north east of amn.

And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood
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Mazrim_Taim
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Posted - 29 Nov 2005 :  12:00:46  Show Profile  Visit Mazrim_Taim's Homepage Send Mazrim_Taim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh and thanks for the help everyone, sorry if I caused any trouble.

And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood
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Purple Dragon Knight
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I lost my big map last year: I called WotC's customer service and they mailed me a brand new one... :)
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Crennen FaerieBane
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Maybe this is why they stopped making pull out maps. I had never thought about that, but maybe WotC received a lot of complaints about lost maps because they could be pulled out of a book.

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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 29 Nov 2005 :  15:49:26  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
And there was the large-FR poster map series from DRAGON as well -- in four part (issues #287-290.) Try paizo.com or nobleknight.com or dragontrove.com for the specific back issues.



Hey, guys.
How impressive is this map that cam in the DRAGON???
I´m asking because some of this issues are at sale for a very good price in a store here in Brasil, and, if the map worth the value, I´m thinking and buy these issues.

Thanks in advance

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin

quote:
And there was the large-FR poster map series from DRAGON as well -- in four part (issues #287-290.) Try paizo.com or nobleknight.com or dragontrove.com for the specific back issues.



Hey, guys.
How impressive is this map that cam in the DRAGON???
I´m asking because some of this issues are at sale for a very good price in a store here in Brasil, and, if the map worth the value, I´m thinking and buy these issues.

Thanks in advance

I'm not too sure on how you define impressive for a map...

For me, impressive usually equates with "detailed". If that's the case, then each of these large poster maps are considerably detailed -- they feature most of the more common places referenced in the Realms (and most of those mentioned in the FRCS).

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 29 Nov 2005 :  17:08:41  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mazrim_Taim

I ordered an old 2nd edition (I think) CD-ROM called Forgotten Realms Atlas. Supposedly it has over 500 maps that are printable. It should be here soon

I just hope it has some good maps of the Western Hearlands, particularly the area north east of amn.



The proper name is the Forgotten Realms Interactive Altas, which differentiates it from the Forgotten Realms Atlas, a print book by Karen Fonstad.

It's got about 8 gazillion maps in it... And it's something a lot of people want. I've seen that go for a very hefty price. Luckily, I got mine directly from TSR, for half-price, when they were dumping them.

Make sure you go to the Electronic Media page to get all the updates and additional maps for the program.

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin

quote:
And there was the large-FR poster map series from DRAGON as well -- in four part (issues #287-290.) Try paizo.com or nobleknight.com or dragontrove.com for the specific back issues.



Hey, guys.
How impressive is this map that cam in the DRAGON???
I´m asking because some of this issues are at sale for a very good price in a store here in Brasil, and, if the map worth the value, I´m thinking and buy these issues.

Thanks in advance



Is one map that's four full-size posters impressive enough for you?

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Mazrim_Taim
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Posted - 30 Nov 2005 :  02:55:42  Show Profile  Visit Mazrim_Taim's Homepage Send Mazrim_Taim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Mazrim_Taim

I ordered an old 2nd edition (I think) CD-ROM called Forgotten Realms Atlas. Supposedly it has over 500 maps that are printable. It should be here soon

I just hope it has some good maps of the Western Hearlands, particularly the area north east of amn.



The proper name is the Forgotten Realms Interactive Altas, which differentiates it from the Forgotten Realms Atlas, a print book by Karen Fonstad.

It's got about 8 gazillion maps in it... And it's something a lot of people want. I've seen that go for a very hefty price. Luckily, I got mine directly from TSR, for half-price, when they were dumping them.

Make sure you go to the Electronic Media to get all the updates and additional maps for the program.



Good to know

A question, it wont be here for a few days but I am very excited now about getting it. Is there any compatibility issues with the 2nd edition material I should know about? I got into FR pretty much right as D&D 3.0 was coming out. So I don't know a whole lot about the old FR material for AD&D.

And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood
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Wooly Rupert
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For the maps, not really... The lay of the land hasn't changed that much. With 3E, some of the empty spaces were condensed, but that's about it.

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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 30 Nov 2005 :  11:44:03  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
I'm not too sure on how you define impressive for a map...

For me, impressive usually equates with "detailed". If that's the case, then each of these large poster maps are considerably detailed -- they feature most of the more common places referenced in the Realms (and most of those mentioned in the FRCS).



Excellent point, Sage! And I´m with you in this! I like of the details, that little point with a strange name that put me to search in my books for some reference, or places with an evocative name, that put me to start do think in someone to fill the spaces, and entertain my players.

quote:
Is one map that's four full-size posters impressive enough for you?


Ho ho! It´s good to hear this, my furry friend! I like of the "good great ones" (the map of Myth Drannor of the Ruins of Myth Drannor boxed set is one of my "best of")

Well, I think that is time to buy some old Dragons...

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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 30 Nov 2005 :  13:23:25  Show Profile  Visit Lady Kazandra's Homepage Send Lady Kazandra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

With 3E, some of the empty spaces were condensed, but that's about it.
If I remember this correctly, wasn't there a big fuss made about the fact that the realm of Erlkazar had been moved slightly from where it had originally been located in Lands of Intrigue?

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Lady Kazandra

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

With 3E, some of the empty spaces were condensed, but that's about it.
If I remember this correctly, wasn't there a big fuss made about the fact that the realm of Erlkazar had been moved slightly from where it had originally been located in Lands of Intrigue?


Indeed, it was.

Steven explains -

"There's no reason why Erlkazar can't continue to exist as mapped in 2E within what they've produced in 3E. After all, the only real change to that area seems to be that they've made the entire area hilly, which it was in description anyways. If anyone's seen photos of the Scottish highlands, that's what I was going for in eastern Tethyr and Erlkazar. I think the only real change that might need to happen is to shrink farms and make them more hillside strip farms more than open fields (ala how they farmed in Peruvian highlands at Maichu Picchu et al).

Remember--the world doesn't change as much as the rules or how the gamers look at the world through those rules. After all, Elminster's been the same roguish gent he's always been, but how the rules allowed him to be seen have changed 4 times now...and he's still Elminster. Same goes for geography (sparing changes like Shade or Tilverton...)

Steven
who hopes you continue to get use out of Tethyr & environs even if WotC isn't...."

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MIGHTYMIKE
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I was wondering where I could purchase a copy of The Forgotten Realms Interactive Altas?
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by MIGHTYMIKE

I was wondering where I could purchase a copy of The Forgotten Realms Interactive Altas?



First of all, be advised that you're likely going to have to pay thru the nose for it... It's been out of production for years, and a lot of people want it.

I've heard of people finding dusty copies tucked away in the back of their game stores, but the only place I know of to look for the Atlas is on eBay. Copies pop up on there every week or two.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I've heard of people finding dusty copies tucked away in the back of their game stores, but the only place I know of to look for the Atlas is on eBay. Copies pop up on there every week or two.
Or dragontrove.com, as I'd seen it listed on their online catalogues the last time someone here asked this question.

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Arivia
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Lady Kazandra

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

With 3E, some of the empty spaces were condensed, but that's about it.
If I remember this correctly, wasn't there a big fuss made about the fact that the realm of Erlkazar had been moved slightly from where it had originally been located in Lands of Intrigue?


Indeed, it was.

Steven explains -

"There's no reason why Erlkazar can't continue to exist as mapped in 2E within what they've produced in 3E. After all, the only real change to that area seems to be that they've made the entire area hilly, which it was in description anyways. If anyone's seen photos of the Scottish highlands, that's what I was going for in eastern Tethyr and Erlkazar. I think the only real change that might need to happen is to shrink farms and make them more hillside strip farms more than open fields (ala how they farmed in Peruvian highlands at Maichu Picchu et al).

Remember--the world doesn't change as much as the rules or how the gamers look at the world through those rules. After all, Elminster's been the same roguish gent he's always been, but how the rules allowed him to be seen have changed 4 times now...and he's still Elminster. Same goes for geography (sparing changes like Shade or Tilverton...)

Steven
who hopes you continue to get use out of Tethyr & environs even if WotC isn't...."




Wow-I just read that section in LoI for the first time. Erlkazar is definitely the place of my next FR game, and Steven, I love you all the more now.
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The Sage
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Arivia, if you haven't done so already, I suggest you also read the novel Master of Chains by Jess Lebow. It takes place in Erlkazar and features some expanded novel-lore on the region Steven originally outlined in LoI.

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Arivia
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Arivia, if you haven't done so already, I suggest you also read the novel Master of Chains by Jess Lebow. It takes place in Erlkazar and features some expanded novel-lore on the region Steven originally outlined in LoI.




Alright, thanks-and I guess I should maybe reread the Cleric Quintet while I'm at it....
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