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Arteris
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 07 Nov 2004 : 16:41:02
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I just bought Servant of the Shard and all the focus on Entreri reminded me of a time some months ago (maybe 5-6?) when someone mentioned that Entreri has become a shade or half shade or somthing like that.. Could someone shed some light on this, and if its true what book it happens in? Thank you very much
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Edited by - Arteris on 07 Nov 2004 16:44:54
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Sourcemaster2
Senior Scribe
USA
361 Posts |
Posted - 07 Nov 2004 : 23:41:06
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| The story of Entreri's transformation can be found in Realms of Shadow, "That Curious Sword." Details are sketchy as of yet, so new powers and such may be made clear in a later book. |
But what have all the passing years/Done, but breed new angers, fears?/Show me now an equal worth/To innocence I earned at birth. |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 08 Nov 2004 : 02:09:57
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Artemis Entreri is indeed a demi-shade. It occured when he and Jarlaxle were ambushed by shades. The assassin attacked one of them with his vampiric dagger and drained the shade's life-force which transferred over to him but also transformed him.
Basically, it was just a way to prolong Artemis's life and also allow him to keep his prime as a fighter. |
"Trust in the shadows, for the bright way makes you an easy target." -Mask |
Edited by - DDH_101 on 08 Nov 2004 02:11:40 |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2004 : 08:18:29
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quote:
Originally posted by Arteris
I just bought Servant of the Shard and all the focus on Entreri reminded me of a time some months ago (maybe 5-6?) when someone mentioned that Entreri has become a shade or half shade or somthing like that.. Could someone shed some light on this, and if its true what book it happens in? Thank you very much
You do know that shade don't normally like getting light shed on them. He might take it personally.   |
Hell hath no fury like all of Candlekeep rising in defense of one of its own.
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Capn Charlie
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 08 Nov 2004 : 11:57:27
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You're becoming something of a commodian of late, Bookwyrm...
Had I known roaming around making one liners, quips and the such liek was acceptable around here, I would have done so long ago...
Always feared alaundo's wrath too much, though. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2004 : 12:03:01
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Come to think of it, there was a time when Alaundo specifically warned against "banter" posts.
I believe he meant things that carried beyond the Realms, though.  (Such as the physics jokes Sage and I made around that time.) Also, the forums were threatening to get all chaotic on us. I think that was when Alaundo ordered up his staff of the irritated moderator . . . seems his rod of moderator might just wasn't cutting it. |
Hell hath no fury like all of Candlekeep rising in defense of one of its own.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 08 Nov 2004 : 15:48:44
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
seems his rod of moderator might just wasn't cutting it.
Moderator might what? |
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Arteris
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 08 Nov 2004 : 17:11:43
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Originally posted by Bookwyrm
quote:
Originally posted by Arteris
I just bought Servant of the Shard and all the focus on Entreri reminded me of a time some months ago (maybe 5-6?) when someone mentioned that Entreri has become a shade or half shade or somthing like that.. Could someone shed some light on this, and if its true what book it happens in? Thank you very much
You do know that shade don't normally like getting light shed on them. He might take it personally.
You know I was actually thinking about saying that too.. Heheh |
Edited by - Arteris on 08 Nov 2004 17:12:37 |
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Arteris
Learned Scribe
121 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2004 : 17:32:43
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This also brings about another question
Are shades immortal, or do they have an extremly long life span or somthing? Because I've never seen any mention of that topic in the Forgotten Realms CS |
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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 09 Nov 2004 : 01:06:55
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| shades are undead and undying...unless slain of course |
Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo
Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster
Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna
I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 09 Nov 2004 : 01:55:30
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Originally posted by Arteris
This also brings about another question
Are shades immortal, or do they have an extremly long life span or somthing? Because I've never seen any mention of that topic in the Forgotten Realms CS
Shades live to approximately 150 years. The info on their age and age effects can be found in Races of Faerun. |
"Trust in the shadows, for the bright way makes you an easy target." -Mask |
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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
466 Posts |
Posted - 09 Nov 2004 : 02:35:18
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shades do have a lifespan? but...they are undead are they not? |
Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo
Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster
Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna
I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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5517 Posts |
Posted - 09 Nov 2004 : 03:17:30
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Originally posted by Dracandos the Spellsage
shades do have a lifespan? but...they are undead are they not?
Creatures of the Plane of Shadow actually. |
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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
466 Posts |
Posted - 09 Nov 2004 : 03:35:37
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| shadows are creatures of the Plane of Shadow, and they are undead... |
Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo
Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster
Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna
I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 09 Nov 2004 : 03:38:01
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Originally posted by Dracandos the Spellsage
shades do have a lifespan? but...they are undead are they not?
Shades aren't undead. They were Nethrese that went to live in the Plane of Shadows and "interacted" with the inhabitants there. |
"Trust in the shadows, for the bright way makes you an easy target." -Mask |
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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
466 Posts |
Posted - 09 Nov 2004 : 04:20:34
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| then why in the Monster Manual 2 (2e) does it say that they are undead? i know its 2e but... |
Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo
Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster
Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna
I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 09 Nov 2004 : 04:59:34
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Originally posted by Dracandos the Spellsage
then why in the Monster Manual 2 (2e) does it say that they are undead? i know its 2e but...
Shades from the Shade Enclave are not the same thing as Shades that are undead. :) Two different things. |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
466 Posts |
Posted - 09 Nov 2004 : 05:20:38
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oooh so the shade that "infected" Entreri was a shade from the Shade Enclave? i just was under the impression it was just a normal shade. there, that finally clears that up |
Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo
Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster
Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna
I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage |
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Arteris
Learned Scribe
121 Posts |
Posted - 09 Nov 2004 : 05:29:30
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| Is there a place I can get his new stats for 3E since hes part shade now? |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 09 Nov 2004 : 06:10:26
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Originally posted by Dracandos the Spellsage
oooh so the shade that "infected" Entreri was a shade from the Shade Enclave? i just was under the impression it was just a normal shade. there, that finally clears that up
Yes, that's why his story appeared in the Realms of Shadows Anthology. It was supposed to tie in with the Return of the Shadow Enclave. |
"Trust in the shadows, for the bright way makes you an easy target." -Mask |
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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
466 Posts |
Posted - 09 Nov 2004 : 15:28:01
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ok that makes a lot more sense
< hasnt read any of those books |
Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo
Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster
Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna
I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 09 Nov 2004 : 18:03:43
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Originally posted by Dracandos the Spellsage
ok that makes a lot more sense
< hasnt read any of those books
If you're interested in the subjec matter, I'd recommend reading Paul Kemp's Erevis Cale trilogy over the Return of the Shades novels that were released with FR3E. |
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Dracandos the Spellsage
Senior Scribe
466 Posts |
Posted - 09 Nov 2004 : 20:30:12
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thanks for the advice...this may shock some of my fellow scribes, but i really dont like reading. i have a decent amount of FR novels but have only read a handful of them. even on subjects i like (such as the FR) i cannot just sit down and read. now lore books on the other hand, those i can sit and enjoy. the most enjoyable thing ive ever read was The Slayers Guide to Undead. i love the slayers guides, and the encyclopaedia arcanes are fantastic as well |
Death strips away the masks men don to hide their true nature - The Slayer's Guide to Undead
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos shall be sown from their passage - So Sayeth the Wise Alaundo
Whenever magic one doth weave, 'tis never ever wise to deceive - Elminster
Strength and power come from knowing and controlling what others do not, but never reveal all that you know - Vecna
I have been known to cast a blue mage spell now and again - Dracandos the Spellsage |
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Artemis Entreri.. Shade?
