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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 12 Jan 2013 :  15:48:47  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
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To me it seems wiser to cast contact other plane or something first. Call ahead, work out the deal, keep the gates between worlds closed. It's a courtesy to celestial types, it's insurance against fiendish types - the Prime is locked to them so why give them free access to it before agreeing on a price? Safer and smarter, whether you know what's out there or not.



Well, if you've got a good binding circle, you just keep them in there, where they can't get out. A lot of the fiction makes it sound like the created portal is linked to the summoned critter (so nothing else will come thru) and that it stays open until the critter is dismissed (so they can get sent home).

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Ayrik

To me it seems wiser to cast contact other plane or something first. Call ahead, work out the deal, keep the gates between worlds closed. It's a courtesy to celestial types, it's insurance against fiendish types - the Prime is locked to them so why give them free access to it before agreeing on a price? Safer and smarter, whether you know what's out there or not.

Well, if you've got a good binding circle, you just keep them in there, where they can't get out. A lot of the fiction makes it sound like the created portal is linked to the summoned critter (so nothing else will come thru) and that it stays open until the critter is dismissed (so they can get sent home).
I'm not quite sure if I'm recalling this right, as I hated that book...In Pools of Darkness, the Red Wizard (whose name escapes me) used some sort of semi-permanent door or portal he frequently used to summon his pet fiend. Instead of casting a tedious spell and sketching a binding circle on the floor every time he summoned his big, ugly "pet," he just used a trigger word as a "key."

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Xar Zarath
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Is a called creature when killed, permanently dead?

Everything ends where it begins. Period.



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Wooly Rupert
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Is a called creature when killed, permanently dead?



Nope, just sent back to their home plane.

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Do they return as normal or is the fiend "demoted"?

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Do they return as normal or is the fiend "demoted"?



I would imagine that depends on a lot of factors. I would expect, though, that most of those factors would depend on what was going on at "home". A fiend in the middle of a vicious power struggle might get summoned, pop back to the Lower Planes a few days later, and find that a rival or three has kicked him down a few notches.

I wouldn't think that events in the Prime would have a huge impact on fiendish status, unless the fiend's rivals somehow found out that the fiend had been un-summoned in some ridiculous manner, like by being "killed" by a kender with a water balloon full of holy water.

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