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Dennis
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Posted - 03 Aug 2012 :  02:08:46  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

So Szass Tam leaves Aglarond and Rashemen virtually unharmed so that he could have a steady supply of living people which he can use to feed his undead and make more undead? Or more like a 'backup,' in case his own supply in Thay runs dry. Hmm...Not bad.

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Firestorm
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Posted - 05 Aug 2012 :  03:28:07  Show Profile Send Firestorm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We really don"t know how many different spots he is building Dread rings in now. This one in neverwinter might just be a small focus in a larger game. He might be building them in every corner of the world this time just in case it fails again so he can try in different spots
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Markustay
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Posted - 05 Aug 2012 :  06:24:03  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So Szass Tam is to Dread Rings what Donald trump is to hotels?

I guess I wasn't far off at all with my take on him in the 'MTV Realms' thread.

On a serious note, wouldn't that mean that the next time he performs his little ritual, he will be extinguishing the entire planet? It will be like Threnody all over again (except with lots of races, not just dark elves).

They should stick Threnody in the Shadowfel, or at least part of it. Hell, they should make it a Domain in Ravenloft.

EDIT: come to think of it, why hasn't the Dark Powers taken Szass Tam and Thay into the Domains of Dread? You would think they would have, after he cast that ritual. Maybe Ravenloft didn't want to get 'infected' (after all, Toril's got 'the plague')?

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Edited by - Markustay on 05 Aug 2012 06:27:06
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Brimstone
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Posted - 05 Aug 2012 :  08:32:41  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arcanus

It's about time larloch squished this tam chappie.




Like a bug.

Or Larloch finds him amusing in a quaint sorta way...

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Dennis
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Posted - 05 Aug 2012 :  08:51:34  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

quote:
Originally posted by Arcanus

It's about time larloch squished this tam chappie.



Like a bug.

Or Larloch finds him amusing in a quaint sorta way...


Nah. He's busy squishing another insect.

quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

EDIT: come to think of it, why hasn't the Dark Powers taken Szass Tam and Thay into the Domains of Dread? You would think they would have, after he cast that ritual. Maybe Ravenloft didn't want to get 'infected' (after all, Toril's got 'the plague')?


Because likely they think Szass Tam is a one mad lich whose ambition is doomed to fail.

I don't underestimate Szass Tam, but I seriously doubt the Ritual of Unmaking would nuke the whole planet, let alone eliminate all the gods. However, I believe that such vast, concentrated amount of magical energy can nuke a considerable portion of Faerun, IF cast successfully. The Dark Powers don't mind getting some cities burned and some people killed, as long as it's not all of them.

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Edited by - Dennis on 05 Aug 2012 08:52:10
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Markustay
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Posted - 05 Aug 2012 :  16:41:25  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmph... "...eliminate all the gods".

Thats what happened on Athas. You now, the more I think about it, the more its sounds like Szass Tam has learned how to be a Defiler.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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Dennis
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Posted - 05 Aug 2012 :  19:06:27  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

On the contrary, no. Defilers...defile the land, plants, and creatures around them; siphoning off life itself. What Szass Tam wants is the opposite. He thinks the whole world is unclean, him included. He wants to rid the world of impurities, of life and undeath. So he plans to 'renew' it, killing everything, everyone, every deity, making a new form of life, a new world, a new universe.

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Markustay
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Posted - 05 Aug 2012 :  19:39:15  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
*meh*

Sounds a bit too Lovecraftian, IMHO.

However, that thought made me realize something. Necromancy isn't about death at all - its about life. I know the CBoN kinda touched on that subject, but now I'm thinking its more then just either/or. Necromancy actually couldn't exist without life - it feeds off of it.

So Defiling and Preserving don't really do different things, its more a matter of one being frugal with one's resources, and using them in a gentle and non-destructive manner, and the other simply not caring and sucking-out everything around them. Both still utilize the same power-source.

That makes me need to re-think quite a few things. Even though that isn't FR, I feel it does relate to the setting as Ed intended it (IMO).

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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Dennis
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Posted - 05 Aug 2012 :  21:41:53  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Necromancy for Szass Tam is just a tool, so as the other schools of magic he mastered. He even feels disgusted with undeath, with his own undead state. But he recognizes how powerful a tool it is for his end goal, so he endures...

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