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Hoondatha
Great Reader
USA
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 Posted - 19 Jan 2008 : 03:24:59
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Dragon 221, "The Little Wish". And sorry, but it was a proficiency. 
Ok, now I've got to look.
[pulls out pick and shovel, ventures bravely into the closet]
[several hours later]
Yep, yep that's the article. I'd remember that crazed wizard and his pinkies anywhere. And you're right, it's a proficiency. I made it a class feature for a mage PC in my group, which is why my memory was mixed up. |
Doggedly converting 3e back to what D&D should be...
Sigh... And now 4e as well. |
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Caedwyr
Seeker
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Posted - 19 Jan 2008 : 05:00:18
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In the 2nd Edition Wizard's Spell Compendium and Priest's Spell Compendiums, it is mentioned that cantrips and orisons were commonly treated as a single first level spell that is cast once, and allows you to cast any type of cantrip during its duration without limits for an 8 hour period. There are also rules for replacing a single 1st level spell slot with 4 cantrips. Personally, I've always ruled that they can be cast without limit so long as the player has not exhausted their magic for that day (still has spells memorized and unspent, or isn't magically drained in another way).
Then again, I've typically used the 2nd edition cantrips and orisins found in the Wizard's Spell Compendium Volume IV and Priest's Spell Compendium appendices. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jan 2008 : 16:27:53
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I like the Mysteries suggestion from Wooly. Too bad it won't work in 4E as Mystra is KAPUT!!!
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Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
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Hoondatha
Great Reader
USA
2449 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jan 2008 : 19:58:10
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| Yes, well, I never converted to 3e, though I've read most of the books. I'm not going to convert to 4e either. |
Doggedly converting 3e back to what D&D should be...
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LordArcana
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 21 Jan 2008 : 20:41:35
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
The best idea I saw was in an article in Dragon, back in 2E: make cantrips a proficiency. You had a limited number of cantrips you could cast, but that went up per level, and eventually (I think 8th level), that limit went away. And to cast them, you simply had to make a proficiency check -- and this restriction also went away, after a while (level 5, I think). That system, to me, very much captured the right feel for cantrips, and gave a workable system for them.
Oh i totaly agree with this. Infact i have done this since the 3.0 switch. At level 5 when a wizard needs to create a sigil he begins to cast 0 level spells without the need to keep track of them. Within reason! I have had players joke about abusing the system by casting ray of frost every round until a pond freezes over... |
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Rant: Casters know the level of their spells
