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Mirtek
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 Posted - 30 Aug 2020 : 16:23:24
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Bottom line is the the Dead Three are mortal demigods because the current D&D designers want them to be. They do not care anymore for a coherent lore that delivers any reason for it.
It's "cool" and it's needed for the new multi-million $ video game and tie-in modules and that is all the reason it needs
Same with why Tiamat is trapped in Avernus. It's nice of Ed to write up some lore that closes this gap, but we can be pretty sure that the current D&D team had none of that in mind when they decided to up with the frist two modules.
They'll just spitball a short explanation for whatever they need at the moment, not caring how many holes it has even for the current status and feel completely free to disregard it further down the line when they decide to do something else |
Edited by - Mirtek on 30 Aug 2020 16:25:34 |
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Zeromaru X
Great Reader
Colombia
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Posted - 30 Aug 2020 : 17:24:28
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Originally posted by Storyteller Hero
Interestingly enough, Achra-Bane took Magubliyet as an exarch, and when 4e came along, Magubliyet was described as Realmspace-Bane's exarch.
Despite the two deities being confirmed as separate entities in DRAGON magazine, there may be an important connection.
One possibility may be that Realmspace-Bane is either a progeny or divergent aspect of Achra-Bane, meaning he could have been at least a demigod in the origin story for the Dead Three - this would help explain why so much wonder was being expressed by Bane when he was forced into a mortal avatar form in the Avatar series.
There is also that line in FR10 Old Empires that states that Bane came to the Realms from some other place.
And yes, one of the origin stories of Achra is that he was either a demigod or a mortal king who killed an older god of war to gain his powers (The Plane Above: Secrets of the Astral Sea). |
Instead of seeking change, you prefer a void, merciless abyss of a world... |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
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Posted - 30 Aug 2020 : 22:02:04
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Originally posted by Zeromaru X
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Originally posted by Storyteller Hero
Interestingly enough, Achra-Bane took Magubliyet as an exarch, and when 4e came along, Magubliyet was described as Realmspace-Bane's exarch.
Despite the two deities being confirmed as separate entities in DRAGON magazine, there may be an important connection.
One possibility may be that Realmspace-Bane is either a progeny or divergent aspect of Achra-Bane, meaning he could have been at least a demigod in the origin story for the Dead Three - this would help explain why so much wonder was being expressed by Bane when he was forced into a mortal avatar form in the Avatar series.
There is also that line in FR10 Old Empires that states that Bane came to the Realms from some other place.
And yes, one of the origin stories of Achra is that he was either a demigod or a mortal king who killed an older god of war to gain his powers (The Plane Above: Secrets of the Astral Sea).
Just wondering, where in FR10? |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
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Zeromaru X
Great Reader
Colombia
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Posted - 30 Aug 2020 : 22:12:35
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Oh, sorry. I don't know why I though Old Empires was the FR10 book,  . Anyways, check page 14, third (or fourth) paragraph. |
Instead of seeking change, you prefer a void, merciless abyss of a world... |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
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Posted - 30 Aug 2020 : 23:05:31
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Originally posted by Zeromaru X
Oh, sorry. I don't know why I though Old Empires was the FR10 book, . Anyways, check page 14, third (or fourth) paragraph.
Gotcha. I knew he came from elsewhere (some novel mentioned it I think), was hoping this might say something more. Still, posting that piece in case anyone else has questions. Ironically, I guess I glossed over the "translation" of Mulhorand to mean "Eternity" in Mulan as well. Not sure how I'd use that, but maybe in the name of something (i.e. "the eternal flame" becomes "the Mulhorand flame").
Within this expanse are desert, ruins, mountains, fertile fields, and cities that were great 2,000 years before the first stone was place on Waterdeep, before the Zhentarim ever unleashed an evil scheme, before Bane was even aware that the Realms existed, a time when the world was young, even to the elves. The words Mulhorand and "eternity" are the same in the language of the Mulhorandi. |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
Phillip aka Sleyvas |
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Mirtek
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 30 Aug 2020 : 23:10:03
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| The novel that mentioned it was Stormlight |
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cpthero2
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 21 Sep 2020 : 07:42:40
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Master Bones,
lol...I love the expensive china hitting the floor there with that one. I completely agree with you there. That being said...
I do much prefer the idea of Leira posing in one fashion or another as those very weakened deity.
Best regards,
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New Evidence to Support Dead Three Theory
