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Dargoth
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Posted - 04 Nov 2006 :  23:11:33  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic


Apparently Cityscape is out in some stores and I was wondering if any scribes are going to rush out and buy it and if so I have a question

Would Cityscape add anything to a campaign using the 3ed City of Splendors or is just a "How to build a city for your campaign" type book

Thanks in advance

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EytanBernstein
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Posted - 07 Nov 2006 :  21:07:07  Show Profile  Visit EytanBernstein's Homepage Send EytanBernstein a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth



Apparently Cityscape is out in some stores and I was wondering if any scribes are going to rush out and buy it and if so I have a question

Would Cityscape add anything to a campaign using the 3ed City of Splendors or is just a "How to build a city for your campaign" type book

Thanks in advance



I can't give a full review as that wouldn't be professional (and I don't have time), but I do believe that this book would be of significant use in the Realms. The designers did an excellent job with what I feel is an extremely difficult subject.

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VonRaventheDaring
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Posted - 08 Nov 2006 :  16:05:14  Show Profile  Visit VonRaventheDaring's Homepage Send VonRaventheDaring a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I haven't seen it yet but i have to say i am interested in this book.

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Dargoth
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Posted - 09 Nov 2006 :  23:30:00  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It doesnt seem to be getting very good reviews from those who have it at enworld and over at WOTC.......

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Kuje
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Posted - 10 Nov 2006 :  00:02:24  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

It doesnt seem to be getting very good reviews from those who have it at enworld and over at WOTC.......



I grabbed my copy today and well, after browsing through it, I thought it could have been a bit better. However, combined with the 3rd party city books, not counting Monte's city, but books on city info and how to run cities, it compliments them.

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Kalin Agrivar
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Posted - 10 Nov 2006 :  00:17:23  Show Profile  Visit Kalin Agrivar's Homepage Send Kalin Agrivar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'v only seen the table of contents, it looked ok...

how is it in comparison to the other "terrain" books, Frostburn, Stormwrack and Sandstorm?

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Dargoth
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Posted - 10 Nov 2006 :  00:25:32  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

It doesnt seem to be getting very good reviews from those who have it at enworld and over at WOTC.......



I grabbed my copy today and well, after browsing through it, I thought it could have been a bit better. However, combined with the 3rd party city books, not counting Monte's city, but books on city info and how to run cities, it compliments them.



What do you think about my original question

"Would Cityscape add anything to a campaign using the 3ed City of Splendors or is just a "How to build a city for your campaign" type book?"

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Kuje
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quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

It doesnt seem to be getting very good reviews from those who have it at enworld and over at WOTC.......



I grabbed my copy today and well, after browsing through it, I thought it could have been a bit better. However, combined with the 3rd party city books, not counting Monte's city, but books on city info and how to run cities, it compliments them.



What do you think about my original question

"Would Cityscape add anything to a campaign using the 3ed City of Splendors or is just a "How to build a city for your campaign" type book?"



I'd say it's useful for both but there's some parts that seem lacking, which 3rd party books cover in better detail. I'd like to see more details on tax collection, better details on the different humanoid districts, etc. I'd have preferred that the 20 pages of feats/spells/etc was cut down and used for something else or the page count could have been increased because there are a lot of sections that could have been expanded.

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Kuje
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Posted - 10 Nov 2006 :  00:33:17  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Kalin Agrivar

I'v only seen the table of contents, it looked ok...

how is it in comparison to the other "terrain" books, Frostburn, Stormwrack and Sandstorm?



Myself, I'd get more use out of the terrain books then I would out of this book.

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Reefy
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Posted - 10 Nov 2006 :  20:56:32  Show Profile  Visit Reefy's Homepage Send Reefy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What third party books on the topic are there, and which would any scribes recommend?

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Kuje
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Cityworks and A Magical Medieval Society: Western Europe

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Keravin
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Posted - 13 Nov 2006 :  13:50:55  Show Profile  Visit Keravin's Homepage Send Keravin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I found it primarily is a build your own city book. I bought it for use in my Ptolus game and about a third of the book could find use there, but realistically the only thing I can guarantee use is a couple of feats (which in itself is unusual as I tend to avoid feats).
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