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PattPlays
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Posted - 11 May 2022 : 10:55:37
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quote: Originally posted by TheIriaeban
quote: Originally posted by ericlboyd
quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Part 14: Forgotten Gnomore: The Truth About the Gnomes of the Realms.
This one fulfills the requirement for “The Idiot’s Guide to Demonology.”
I guess that means I shouldn't blame Jergal for their appearance on Toril, then.
Wait, what is this theory? |
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TheIriaeban
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 11 May 2022 : 15:12:23
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quote: Originally posted by PattPlays
quote: Originally posted by TheIriaeban
quote: Originally posted by ericlboyd
quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Part 14: Forgotten Gnomore: The Truth About the Gnomes of the Realms.
This one fulfills the requirement for “The Idiot’s Guide to Demonology.”
I guess that means I shouldn't blame Jergal for their appearance on Toril, then.
Wait, what is this theory?
Thanks to Wooly's suggestion, the following idea occurred to me. This is a rough idea that I have not had time to do any research on:
Jergal was able to engineer the destruction of an entire crystal sphere with a substantial number of gnomes (possibly even the home for the gnome race). To ensure the survival of the gnomes, Garl used all of the power at his disposal to scatter gnomes throughout as many crystal spheres as he could. To survive the trip, the gnomes were transformed into gems. He would then go and "open" the gems to get the gnomes back to normal.
A quick and unresearched idea for why there are gnomes all over the place. And why it is ultimately Jergal's fault that there are gnomes on Toril. |
"Iriaebor is a fine city. So what if you can have violence between merchant groups break out at any moment. Not every city can offer dinner AND a show."
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Azar
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 11 May 2022 : 17:37:01
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We should be kissing Jergal's feet.
(...and then gargling with a bunch of mouthwash, but that's not really the point.) |
Stand with anybody that stands right. Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong.
Earth names in the Realms are more common than you may think. |
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TheIriaeban
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 11 May 2022 : 18:24:01
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quote: Originally posted by Azar
We should be kissing Jergal's feet.
(...and then gargling with a bunch of mouthwash, but that's not really the point.)
Not really. Jergal's actions made the gnomes the way they are now: annoying little blighters.
I believe, the best way to express that, is to picture a gnome in Michael Keeton's Batman costume, standing on a stool (of course), holding Jergal (dressed as The Joker) off the ground by his lapels saying "you made me".
Now, try to scrub that image from your mind.... |
"Iriaebor is a fine city. So what if you can have violence between merchant groups break out at any moment. Not every city can offer dinner AND a show."
My FR writeups - http://www.mediafire.com/folder/um3liz6tqsf5n/Documents
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Azar
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 11 May 2022 : 19:48:02
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quote: Originally posted by TheIriaeban
quote: Originally posted by Azar
We should be kissing Jergal's feet.
(...and then gargling with a bunch of mouthwash, but that's not really the point.)
Not really. Jergal's actions made the gnomes the way they are now: annoying little blighters.
I believe, the best way to express that, is to picture a gnome in Michael Keeton's Batman costume, standing on a stool (of course), holding Jergal (dressed as The Joker) off the ground by his lapels saying "you made me".
Now, try to scrub that image from your mind....
Unless I've overlooked a crucial piece of information that makes me the fool, aren't FR gnomes - the "rock" variety, anyhow - Neutral Good just like the default D&D gnome? Also, sure, they're an eccentric folk, but they're far from, say, Dragonlance's Tinker Gnomes. |
Stand with anybody that stands right. Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong.
Earth names in the Realms are more common than you may think. |
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TheIriaeban
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 11 May 2022 : 22:07:48
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quote: Originally posted by Azar
quote: Originally posted by TheIriaeban
quote: Originally posted by Azar
We should be kissing Jergal's feet.
(...and then gargling with a bunch of mouthwash, but that's not really the point.)
Not really. Jergal's actions made the gnomes the way they are now: annoying little blighters.
I believe, the best way to express that, is to picture a gnome in Michael Keeton's Batman costume, standing on a stool (of course), holding Jergal (dressed as The Joker) off the ground by his lapels saying "you made me".
Now, try to scrub that image from your mind....
Unless I've overlooked a crucial piece of information that makes me the fool, aren't FR gnomes - the "rock" variety, anyhow - Neutral Good just like the default D&D gnome? Also, sure, they're an eccentric folk, but they're far from, say, Dragonlance's Tinker Gnomes.
Like I mentioned, I haven't done a lot of research for this but I am thinking that the gnomes were a bit more dwarven in attitude. But, having a near death experience, their culture changed to be more fun-centric (much like how some of our friends/family have decided, as a reaction to the pandemic, to value work/life balance more than they did previously). That could certainly apply to even non-FR gnomes if the crystal sphere destroyed was the gnome homeland. It could also explain the tinker gnomes since it happened to be that aspect of the original gnome culture was emphasized by that particular group of gnome survivors.
I figure all of this will shake out as I actually start working on it. These ideas are certainly in flux and your pointing out stuff is a big help. I am taking notes so when I do start working on it, this conversation will be a great launching point. |
"Iriaebor is a fine city. So what if you can have violence between merchant groups break out at any moment. Not every city can offer dinner AND a show."
My FR writeups - http://www.mediafire.com/folder/um3liz6tqsf5n/Documents
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