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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3286 Posts |
Posted - 02 Feb 2018 : 23:15:49
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New book in May.
Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes
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"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding." Alaundo of Candlekeep |
Edited by - Brimstone on 06 Feb 2018 21:12:07
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Zeromaru X
Great Reader
Colombia
2442 Posts |
Posted - 03 Feb 2018 : 00:33:12
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Seems they didn't used a Realms character for the title's name this time. |
Instead of seeking change, you prefer a void, merciless abyss of a world... |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7969 Posts |
Posted - 03 Feb 2018 : 01:03:59
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Mordenkainen was mentioned even fewer times in Realmslore than in Planescape, lol, at least before 4E.
But I do think "Larloch's Tome of Foes" or "Volo's Tome of Foes" might be a more interesting read. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 03 Feb 2018 : 01:46:39
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And the next product after that will be Raistlin's Book of Things Entirely Unconnected to Krynn. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3286 Posts |
Posted - 03 Feb 2018 : 01:48:23
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Probably changed it up because the complaining about the names of the other books... |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding." Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3286 Posts |
Posted - 03 Feb 2018 : 01:49:40
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
And the next product after that will be Raistlin's Book of Things Entirely Unconnected to Krynn.
LOLOLOL |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding." Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Shadowsoul
Senior Scribe
Ireland
705 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2018 : 06:54:16
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Raistlin will always be my favourite character. |
“Fantasy is escapist, and that is its glory. If a soldier is imprisioned by the enemy, don't we consider it his duty to escape?. . .If we value the freedom of mind and soul, if we're partisans of liberty, then it's our plain duty to escape, and to take as many people with us as we can!” #8213; J.R.R. Tolkien
*I endorse everything Dark Wizard says*. |
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moonbeast
Senior Scribe
USA
522 Posts |
Posted - 06 Feb 2018 : 04:37:06
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It's still a better working title than Dagnabbet's Fuzzy History of the Realms |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3286 Posts |
Posted - 06 Feb 2018 : 14:56:06
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The Tome is going to add the Gith and some other Races... |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding." Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3286 Posts |
Posted - 06 Feb 2018 : 15:03:59
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quote: What we know in no particular order (thanks to various posters below): 130+ pages of monsters Structurally similar to Volo's Guide to Monsters "Conflict-themed" Blood War, Githzerai vs Githyanki, elves vs drow, dwarves vs. duergar, other planar conflicts; also under dark vs planar conflicts such a Gith vs Mindflayers. Greyhawk is the primary example for the core race lore At least half the monsters are CR 10 or above Advice on running high CR monsters Focus on cosmological conflicts Gith, mindflayers, drow, elves, elastin, shadar-kai as an elven sub-race, sea elves Shadar Kai gain Trance, Fey Ancestory, Keen Senses, Elvish, (they had Darkvision already), and a 700 year life span (or more) Many monsters are Shadowfell-related Guide to Planes for DMs Planar subraces Backgrounds for tieflings 8 tiefling subraces: Zariel, Mephosilies, Belzebub, Feirna/Beliel, Glaysa, Levisitus, Dispater, Mammon Cultists (abyssal and infernal) Archedevil and demon cults Devil society, hierarchy, government, bureaucracy All common races except humans touched on Shemeska the Maurader Leviathan as an Elder Elemental that is Tarrasque level Playable Mindflayers will never, ever be a thing in D&D Plenty of random tables for both DMs and players Clockwork constructs built by gnomes Gnome invention table Non-humanoid eldarin New yugoloths Elves have so many different forms because they used to be shapeshifters before their fall from being Fey
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"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding." Alaundo of Candlekeep |
Edited by - Brimstone on 06 Feb 2018 15:08:18 |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 06 Feb 2018 : 16:15:59
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Hmm. A couple of those things sound interesting.
And it mentions Greyhawk... So at least there is some connection, however tenuous, to the setting the title implies a connection to. |
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moonbeast
Senior Scribe
USA
522 Posts |
Posted - 06 Feb 2018 : 19:53:30
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Tiefling sub races based on their ancestry traced to a specific ArchDevil .... I kinda like that idea |
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Zeromaru X
Great Reader
Colombia
2442 Posts |
Posted - 06 Feb 2018 : 21:02:26
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I guess they already did that in an UA. I want to see what changes they did to they idea in the book, though. |
Instead of seeking change, you prefer a void, merciless abyss of a world... |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3286 Posts |
Posted - 06 Feb 2018 : 21:11:13
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No one has nibbled on the Bolded part yet... |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding." Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6646 Posts |
Posted - 06 Feb 2018 : 21:18:19
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quote: Originally posted by Brimstone
No one has nibbled on the Bolded part yet...
Doesn't rattle me - and explains Lythari and winged elves a lot better.
-- George Krashos |
"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 06 Feb 2018 : 22:53:29
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quote: Originally posted by George Krashos
quote: Originally posted by Brimstone
No one has nibbled on the Bolded part yet...
Doesn't rattle me - and explains Lythari and winged elves a lot better.
-- George Krashos
Not only that, but it's not uncommon for fae to be some sort of shapeshifters. So it doesn't surprise me that before "locking in" their current forms, the proto-elves had variable forms. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7969 Posts |
Posted - 07 Feb 2018 : 00:10:15
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I personally find the bolded part about elves utterly disinteresting. Utterly disinteresting.
I'm very interested in the snippets about giths and mindflayers, devils and yugoloths and tieflings and the Blood War, planar/cosmological conflicts, new planar races, Shemeska the Marauder, etc. Even if it's post-3E pseudolore.
Not to dismiss all the stuff about elves, drows, shadar-kai, and fey as being unimportant. Just saying that stuff is as unimportant and useless to me as stuff about giths and tieflings and planeslore might be to others. This tome looks to be a big Volo-style collection of loosely-unrelated things, a little bit of something for everyone. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 07 Feb 2018 : 00:52:06
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I hated the title at first, but I've warmed up to it. Mordenkainen was once THE 'D&D Mage', before anyone ever heard of that El-whatsis guy.
And I hate to admit this, but I will be buying this as soon as it comes out - I am both dreading and eagerly anticipating it.
quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
And the next product after that will be Raistlin's Book of Things Entirely Unconnected to Krynn.
That will be the Darksun campaign guide.
The Dragonlance campaign guide will be entitled, A Warforged guide to someplace he's never been". |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 07 Feb 2018 : 01:04:15
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I've made my own explanation to the Shadar-Kai elsewhere (even gave them a sub0name: Shader-Kai), connecting Gydion from RL to the Shades, Hope they do something like that.
I also hope - since the seem to be converging the Shadowfell to some degree - they cover the Malaugrym, but something tells me, given the title, they will avoid realms-specific 'monsters' (although, with their new 'universal' approach to D&D, Malaugrym should just be D&D monsters now, not FR, especially given they don't even live in the Realms).
Considering the shapeshifting and where they're going with the elves, they may even plan on combining the Malaugrym with the Shadar-Kai somehow. Maybe the Malaugrym can become the 'Shadar-Kai nobles', or some-such (I don't like it - just trying to second guess what they would do).
quote: Originally posted by Brimstone
No one has nibbled on the Bolded part yet...
Oh, you mean the song I've been singing since back when I was a heavy-poster on the WotC boards?
ALL fey are shapeshifters - its the nature of the feywild - its 'in flux' (nothing, not even physical matter, is 'stable'). Fey that have been out of the Feywild too long (several generations, with no periodic visits) lose their fey heritage abilities. Its really the only explanation for everything. Nice to know someone was listening to me (I knew they were, after they did that thing with Gruumsh and Corellon). Whats that saying? "The squeaky wheel gets the lore"?
The whole book - excpt maybe the parts about the Bloodwar, has me highly interested. Its all stuff I keep talking about. Can't wait to find out the deal with the Gith and Tiamat.
quote: Originally posted by George Krashos
quote: Originally posted by Brimstone
No one has nibbled on the Bolded part yet...
Doesn't rattle me - and explains Lythari and winged elves a lot better.
And the sea elves... who just look longingly at the sea and then become... sea elves... |
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moonbeast
Senior Scribe
USA
522 Posts |
Posted - 07 Feb 2018 : 01:21:47
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Next WotC book due in late September: Bigby's Big Beefy Beastiary
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 07 Feb 2018 : 05:41:45
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quote: Originally posted by moonbeast
Next WotC book due in late September: Bigby's Big Beefy Beastiary
Is that a cookbook? |
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Scots Dragon
Seeker
United Kingdom
86 Posts |
Posted - 07 Feb 2018 : 08:55:35
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote: Originally posted by moonbeast
Next WotC book due in late September: Bigby's Big Beefy Beastiary
Is that a cookbook?
A licensed Dungeons & Dragons tie-in to the manga series Delicious in Dungeon, obviously. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 08 Feb 2018 : 05:51:05
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What about the late 2018 Strahd's Guide to Building Better Relationships?
Its guide to hybrids, 'halves', and crossbreeding... |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
11695 Posts |
Posted - 08 Feb 2018 : 12:54:10
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quote: Originally posted by Markustay
What about the late 2018 Strahd's Guide to Building Better Relationships?
Its guide to hybrids, 'halves', and crossbreeding...
Cool, Hopefully its got rules for half-dragon, half-troll, half-construct, half-vampire, halflings |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
Phillip aka Sleyvas |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7969 Posts |
Posted - 08 Feb 2018 : 21:34:58
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Half-halflings and double-wookies? |
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CorellonsDevout
Great Reader
USA
2708 Posts |
Posted - 10 Feb 2018 : 01:12:13
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I'll buy it, just for lore updates, if nothing else. |
Sweet water and light laughter |
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moonbeast
Senior Scribe
USA
522 Posts |
Posted - 10 Feb 2018 : 18:04:55
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quote: Originally posted by Ayrik
Half-halflings and double-wookies?
Wouldn't half-halflings be called Quarterlings?
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moonbeast
Senior Scribe
USA
522 Posts |
Posted - 12 Feb 2018 : 11:51:21
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Just watched a video of Mike Mearls talking about their upcoming Moe's Tome of Foes.
Mike pronounced it MOR-DEN-KAY-NEN
Me and my fellow D&D players have always pronounced it the (traditionally) Finnish way, although none of us are Finns: MOR-DEN-KAI-NEN
How do you pronounce it? Does anyone know if Gygax or Greenwood ever said the correct way to pronounce his name? |
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Scots Dragon
Seeker
United Kingdom
86 Posts |
Posted - 12 Feb 2018 : 14:45:13
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quote: Originally posted by moonbeast
Just watched a video of Mike Mearls talking about their upcoming Moe's Tome of Foes.
Mike pronounced it MOR-DEN-KAY-NEN
Me and my fellow D&D players have always pronounced it the (traditionally) Finnish way, although none of us are Finns: MOR-DEN-KAI-NEN
How do you pronounce it? Does anyone know if Gygax or Greenwood ever said the correct way to pronounce his name?
Given that it's derived from Mordecai and Lemminkainen, it ought to be the Finnish way. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 12 Feb 2018 : 15:38:28
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I've always assumed the third syllable rhymed with high, not with hay.
That said, I know that officially, drow rhymes with cow -- but I've always said it so it rhymes with know. I'm such a rebel, in that regard. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3286 Posts |
Posted - 12 Feb 2018 : 18:53:49
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quote: Originally posted by moonbeast
Just watched a video of Mike Mearls talking about their upcoming Moe's Tome of Foes.
So what else did he have to say about the book? Got a link?
Hopefully we can get this scroll back on topic.. |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding." Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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