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Gary Dallison
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ericlboyd
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Posted - 05 Sep 2019 : 19:31:58
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quote: Originally posted by Gary Dallison
So Fake Cult of the Dragon cell in the Moonshae Isles running drugs from Calimshan to the islands that acts as spies for the Twisted Rune in the Sword Coast North.
It could be even more pedestrian. He could simply be running drugs to increase the size of his hoard.
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
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Posted - 05 Sep 2019 : 19:35:55
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quote: Originally posted by Doc Filth
Very comprehensive, and prompt. Thanks!
I think, for the purposes of this module, I'll stick with "...carries whatever spells and items the DM wishes to give him", with a note that his spell repertoire includes Forget and Time Stop.
Kind of odd, though, that an NPC of his power level went completely under the 3.5 radar.
... and Flamsterd's Flamestrike. (See FA1 - Halls of the High King, page 51.) |
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Gary Dallison
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Gary Dallison
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Gary Dallison
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 10 Sep 2019 : 02:40:39
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Your quote doesn't mention Waterdeep ...
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Gary Dallison
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Gary Dallison
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
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Posted - 11 Sep 2019 : 11:47:33
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quote: Originally posted by Gary Dallison
Anyone done anything with the island of llorgh in norheim, or surtrs maw or dalheim, or daryns rest.
I'm assuming surtrs maw is a volcano, I'm thinking of linking it to koraxis' maw (the name for bhaal among the sahuagin, and therefore making it a volcanic vent that has sea access to it so the sahuagin can visit as well. I figure it has been used to make a variety of items in the past (ysallas gold dagger, and a few magic items belonging to the true giants).
Otherwise it's completely undetailed. Given that the northmen arrived here first I could litter it with old northmen settlements, but northmen don't really make anything that lasts very long (mostly wooden structures).
I think the Northmen might leave other enduring legacies. For example, twisted, rune-scarred stones that vaguely resemble the humans and monsters they once were. |
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Gary Dallison
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ericlboyd
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Posted - 11 Sep 2019 : 13:07:37
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Another idea.
The rune-scarred, twisted stones are "stone echoes." Simply, in the wake of a major battle, the surrounding stones absorb the energies of that battle (maybe through the will of Tempus).
In the decades and centuries that follow, the stones gradually take on the twisted aspect of those who fought and died, leaving a cryptic manifestation of history long gone.
quote: Originally posted by Gary Dallison
Rune scarred stones that were once humans and monsters, implying that some terrifying creature stalked the island in the past, or alternatively the northmen once possessed a skill with runes that they inherited from their former giant masters (that they have since lost), and that skill was used to petrify northmen and monster alike mid-battle (the runes are there to keep the petrification from wearing off).
Not a bad idea, using the unique magic of the moonshaes to preserve northmen history and ruins
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Gary Dallison
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ElfBane
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 11 Sep 2019 : 23:36:07
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Wasn't Heimdal the guardian of the bridge/gate to Asgard? Maybe "dal" means some sort of defensive word, such as the "home guard". |
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Gary Dallison
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Gary Dallison
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ElfBane
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 12 Sep 2019 : 20:04:38
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A couple of questions, Gary, about your ultimate goal.
1. Will this Moonshaes lore project eventually be a GHotR-like publication similar to the Maztica project stuff that has been published at the DMs Guild?
2. I believe you published a dynastic record regarding the Moonshaes High-Kings. Will you publish a dynastic record of the Gwynneth/Corwell sub-Kings? Will it be included in the Moonshaes lore project I asked about above? And, do you have enough canon lore to attempt to compile a Gwynneth/Corwell dynastic record?
3. And, to sneak in a third question, when might this be published?
Thank you. |
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Gary Dallison
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Posted - 12 Sep 2019 : 20:40:59
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I cant say i'm terribly enamoured with the DMs Guild, too much water in the swamp to get noticed. I also dislike having to update and release new versions of pdfs and make them available everywhere.
So instead i opted to go for a wiki style webpage (the link is in my sig) that i can build step by step and amend as i see fit without having to update and release the material.
Ultimately i'm hoping to detail the Moonshae Isles as much as i can using all the canon lore available but repurposing and twisting bits of it to remove the really horrible bits (everything 4e and later) and also to allow DMs and players to take part in the Kazgoroth events rather than just read about them in a novel (i really hate that novels removed playing opportunities, by the end of the two trilogies there was no reason to ever visit the Moonshae Isles).
I plan to have a detailed wiki of every place and person and item and organisation in the Moonshae Isles and then have an adventure path of sorts (not even started that bit) that allows the players to stop Kazgoroth's return.
I'm only intending to do this on the wordpress website i'm afraid and there is no intended finishing date, its a labour of love at this point, if i get fed up i will move onto another area (i intend to cover everywhere in the realms if i live long enough) and come back as the whims take me.
I've got the Hugh Dynasty from GHoTR which i'm adding a bit of detail to as i go through events. I did at one point detail all the dynasties of Corwell, Moray, Oman, and Snowdown as part of an earlier version but i've decided i'm not entirely happy with those and will only be using pieces. Ultimately the dynasties of Corwell and the other islands is not terribly important and i have only provided detail on a few that allowed me to detail the area further.
If you want to see what i've got then here is the link https://alternaterealmsblog.wordpress.com/
I will add pictures and pretty it up when i've finished, but thats more of an if than a when.
If you have any comments (even something as minor as spelling mistakes or poor sentence structure) then you can post them here or on the site (i think i have comments enabled) |
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Edited by - Gary Dallison on 12 Sep 2019 20:44:08 |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 17 Sep 2019 : 14:06:55
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quote: Originally posted by Gary Dallison (...) I'm decided on talos being a northmen God (...)
Since in the original novels he is one of the interloper deities which is trying to establish himself in the islands, and Tempus has a "stormy aspect" among the northmen, I decided to explore a rivalry between them - or their clergy - in my campaign. Not exactly what you intend to do, but maybe you can get something out of it. Maybe they wrestle for worshipers, just like Malar gets some followers away from Tempus among the northmen, mostly the more savage berserkers. |
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Gary Dallison
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Posted - 17 Sep 2019 : 14:41:59
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I will have a think about it, you do pose an interesting point in that the worship of talos already exists among northmen so why would coss-axell-sinioth import a similar cult from the mainland.
I think for me the answer is that the northmen are not very religious, they are pragmatic about it and offer veneration only when requires (its stormy, sacrifice a goat to talas). Otherwise I think the northmen ignore their gods (the worship of tempos declined considerably among the northmen in the past few centuries according to ed). I reckon the skalds are the only ones preserving the worship of the gods and they are doing so to keep a place in society for themselves, they don't care which God people venerate, they offer that divine link for people to any God (and accept sacrifices on their behalf).
I think the goal of interloper cults is to establish themselves among the more organised and therefore susceptible societies of the ffolk and the illuskans of gnarhelm.
There is enough mentions in canon to suppose that cults have been making inroads into the islands for a few centuries (malar in prayers from the faithful, bane twice in halls of the high king, bhaal in halls of the high king, talos in prophet of moonshae) but there is no widespread presence so I think it is still relatively virgin territory, the cults just need to remove the monopoly that the druids and the earthmother have in ffolk culture (hence the campaign to eliminate them).
No direct divine intervention for me though, that's strictly disallowed. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 19 Sep 2019 : 14:50:21
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I've never liked the name Coss-Axell-Sinioth. Sounds too much like one of those real-world noble houses that was formed by the marriage of other noble houses.
I don't like having even a single hyphen in a name, much less multiple ones. |
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George Krashos
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Posted - 19 Sep 2019 : 23:29:23
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quote: Originally posted by Gary Dallison
Tried to come up with sahuagin approximations for the surface deities that are worshipped there.
Koraxis the Ravening Maw (Bhaal), Ssassatal the Forked (Talos), Nutasslin the Briny Waste (Auril), Ragarmax the Seawolf (Malar).
I think these are very cool. I am a huge fan of various deities being worshipped around the Realms via different names. Good stuff.
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George Krashos
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Posted - 19 Sep 2019 : 23:30:01
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quote: Originally posted by Gary Dallison
Tried to come up with sahuagin approximations for the surface deities that are worshipped there.
Koraxis the Ravening Maw (Bhaal), Ssassatal the Forked (Talos), Nutasslin the Briny Waste (Auril), Ragarmax the Seawolf (Malar).
I think these are very cool.I am a huge fan of various deities being worshipped around the Realms via different names. Good stuff.
-- George Krashos |
"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus |
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