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Lady Fellshot
Senior Scribe
USA
379 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2010 : 01:09:08
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I just realized that I've been operating under an assumption that most Realms novels fall into an "adventure" category. We already know that the Realms fall pretty squarely into the fantasy genre but what about subgroupings? I haven't read all the Realms novels out there and my sample size should be bigger.
Could we compile a list of novels with what you think their subgenres (mystery, horror, adveture, romance etc.) are? A novel can fall into more than one subgenre too.
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3240 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2010 : 01:19:53
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Well, there were the Realms of Mystery and Realms of Infamy. Many of the compilations have different sub-groupings. I haven't read all the FR novels out there (I know, I know, I am a heathen), but there are elements of mystery, horror and romance through many of the novels. I wouldn't say that they are predominantly those elements, but have strong leaning towards them. |
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
USA
3131 Posts |
Posted - 24 Aug 2011 : 22:11:01
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Murder in Cormyr & Murder in Halruaa= Mystery :) |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 25 Aug 2011 : 00:21:56
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Wow, that's an ambitious undertaking. I'll throw in my personal classifications of my novels, to get the list going:
Ghostwalker = western/revenge fantasy
Depths of Madness = horror fantasy
Shadowbane series: Downshadow, Shadowbane, Eye of Justice = heroic fantasy
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 25 Aug 2011 : 12:19:58
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This may not come as a surprise... I'd like to see a GLBT Realms novel. Maybe it's too unlikely for now, given how homosexuality is tackled in some of the recent novels. |
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
1814 Posts |
Posted - 25 Aug 2011 : 16:44:37
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I'll play:
Queen of the Depths: Spy novel.
The Black Bouquet: Crime/caper novel. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 25 Aug 2011 : 17:11:32
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quote: Originally posted by Dennis
This may not come as a surprise... I'd like to see a GLBT Realms novel. Maybe it's too unlikely for now, given how homosexuality is tackled in some of the recent novels.
For the record, so would I.
Though it seems most likely it would be a major theme, rather than the book being a "GLBT" novel (ie where that's the point of the book). But a novel with a GLBT main character and/or a significant GLBT romance subplot would be awesome.
I myself have written a number of GLBT characters and subplots, but they've never crosses into being the main story. (Heck, having two female characters kiss in a non-sexual way was enough to bring out plenty of anti-gay trolls to slam one of my books. Not that I don't welcome the fight. Because I do.)
Cheers
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'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 25 Aug 2011 : 17:30:42
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quote: Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
quote: Originally posted by Dennis
This may not come as a surprise... I'd like to see a GLBT Realms novel. Maybe it's too unlikely for now, given how homosexuality is tackled in some of the recent novels.
For the record, so would I.
Though it seems most likely it would be a major theme, rather than the book being a "GLBT" novel (ie where that's the point of the book). But a novel with a GLBT main character and/or a significant GLBT romance subplot would be awesome.
I myself have written a number of GLBT characters and subplots, but they've never crosses into being the main story. (Heck, having two female characters kiss in a non-sexual way was enough to bring out plenty of anti-gay trolls to slam one of my books. Not that I don't welcome the fight. Because I do.)
Cheers
Cheers
Perhaps WotC should realize that even non-gay people do read GLBT-themed novels.
Are you comfortable having gay men as heroes and/or villains in your book? |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2011 : 00:10:21
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quote: Originally posted by Dennis
Perhaps WotC should realize that even non-gay people do read GLBT-themed novels. Are you comfortable having gay men as heroes and/or villains in your book?
I already do have such characters, though I don't generally go out of my way to make their orientation blindingly obvious. In the Realms, sexual orientation is much less clear-cut than in our own world.
If it's pertinent to the plot, I do make it clear, however.
I would suggest that if we're going to talk more about this, we should do it over PMs, since this subject is wandering from the OP and has the tendency to become a hand grenade topic.
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
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Faraer
Great Reader
3308 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2011 : 00:58:24
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Cormyr and Evermeet are dynastic historical fiction. |
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James P. Davis
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
244 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2011 : 07:28:39
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I'll play too! Let's see, with 'dark fantasy' as a cover-all I'll try to identify the different flavors of dark...
BLOODWALK (adventure) SHIELD OF WEEPING GHOSTS (ghost story) RESTLESS SHORE (Lovecraftian) CIRCLE OF SKULLS (apocalyptic mystery)
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2011 : 08:08:23
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The Realms should have a Humor sub-category. It would definitely attract thousands of new readers. |
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Yoss
Learned Scribe
USA
259 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2011 : 10:45:03
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I was going to say something about it being presented somewhat of a history book (would that be fictional history historical fiction, then?), but the FR wiki page kind cleans that up a bit with its "elven history opera" description of Evermeet. |
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
USA
3131 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2011 : 13:46:44
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quote: Originally posted by Dennis
The Realms should have a Humor sub-category. It would definitely attract thousands of new readers.
I found Once Around the Realms to be very humorous |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2011 : 15:52:32
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quote: Originally posted by Dennis
The Realms should have a Humor sub-category. It would definitely attract thousands of new readers.
I don't know, comedic writing is both difficult and very subjective. And I'm not convinced comedy for comedy's sake makes for a good or interesting story.
I think comedy is a better tool to be used to enhance any story, rather than as the basis for a story. It's the sort of thing that could apply to anything, because you can make anything* funny.
Cheers
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2011 : 16:07:09
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quote: Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
It's the sort of thing that could apply to anything, because you can make anything* funny.
Cheers
(*Some things more easily than others, of course!)
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2011 : 17:58:59
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quote: Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
quote: Originally posted by Dennis
The Realms should have a Humor sub-category. It would definitely attract thousands of new readers.
I don't know, comedic writing is both difficult and very subjective. And I'm not convinced comedy for comedy's sake makes for a good or interesting story.
Read Christopher Moore's novels. You'll know what I mean. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2011 : 18:37:40
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quote: Originally posted by Dennis
Read Christopher Moore's novels. You'll know what I mean.
I will look into those. Are they comedy for comedy's sake, or are they actual stories that happen to be hilarious?
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2011 : 18:44:42
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Most of them are comedy of manners with a dash of fantasy. |
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