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Oroburos69
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Posted - 06 Jul 2008 :  08:33:23  Show Profile  Visit Oroburos69's Homepage Send Oroburos69 a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Has this been written about somewhere? If so, could someone tell me what was written? The piece of dragon in question was the heart of a black dragon which was made into dragon stew. I doubt it'll affect the effects, but the stew had potatoes, onions, dried peppers, and mushrooms in it too. This has become quite a debate so I'd certainly appeciate an answer.

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I'd say no....... but in your realms...

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Adventures of Volo: Dragonwing Stew Dragon #277 (Nov 2000)

"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 06 Jul 2008 :  14:40:16  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would say it is edible. But you may want to have different "cuts" of Dragon meat from different dragons require special preparations to be safe to consume.
I think the heart of a black dragon may be "acidic" enough to kill if not prepared correctly, much like puffer fish in Japan. Said heart would have to be removed by a special method to ensure all acid is removed while leaving the highly delectible heart intact and ready to eat.

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Posted - 06 Jul 2008 :  15:37:59  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Eating dragon meat and dragon dragon blood may have unintended side effects such as learning what birds are really saying, which, as 'Monty Python's Flying Circus" revealed years ago, isn't a whole lot.






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Thauramarth
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Posted - 06 Jul 2008 :  17:14:39  Show Profile Send Thauramarth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Also from the indomitable Volo: Dragon Soup! (Volo's Guide to Waterdeep, p. 150).
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Posted - 06 Jul 2008 :  21:26:51  Show Profile Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
-Meat is meat...

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I have a mouth, but I am in a library and must not scream.


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althen artren
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I think that before anybody tried, the dragon should
probably be killed 1st.
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I have a mouth, but I am in a library and must not scream.


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Kes_Alanadel
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Posted - 07 Jul 2008 :  03:51:33  Show Profile  Visit Kes_Alanadel's Homepage Send Kes_Alanadel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by althen artren

I think that before anybody tried, the dragon should
probably be killed 1st.



*Has an image of a halfing walking up to a dragon, "Excuse me? I'm hungry, can I 'borrow' a piece of your tail?" *


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*Has an image of a gnome approaching a dragon not with armor, sword and buckler but with napkin around his neck, knife and fork.*

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althen artren
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Posted - 07 Jul 2008 :  21:24:28  Show Profile Send althen artren a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dragons on the verge of extinction?
Obviously you have not looked in
a monster manuel recently.

Edited by - althen artren on 07 Jul 2008 21:25:19
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The Red Walker
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quote:
Originally posted by althen artren

Dragons on the verge of extinction?
Obviously you have not looked in
a monster manuel recently.



I think he was referring to events within the story he metioned

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Varl
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There's a short adventure in Adventure Pack 1 or 2 (I forget which one) called "Steaks" which I ran a few years back which is about eating dragonflesh. Yum. Cooks up nice with some aged Chianti.

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Markustay
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Posted - 08 Jul 2008 :  03:10:48  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It taste like Chicken.

And a VERY hungry Halfling with a fork might just be scarier then an angry one with a sword.

Especially if you're on Athas....

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IngoDjan
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Posted - 08 Jul 2008 :  03:27:03  Show Profile  Visit IngoDjan's Homepage Send IngoDjan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I read in some place that Dragons eat all things. From vegetables Ā“til iron!!!

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Dracons
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Posted - 08 Jul 2008 :  16:16:33  Show Profile  Visit Dracons's Homepage Send Dracons a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Red Dragon: The hottest known meat in the realms. Remember that scene in the Simpsons with Chief Wiggum making the super hot chili? Yeah, thats the minor part. The dark meat is much more hotter. But one of the better tasting meat.

Green Dragon: Poisonous. But tastes so good. Good way to assassanate people though.

White Dragon: Uncookable. It seems like the white dragon meat just cannot get heated, even by magical means. It reminds raw and frozen.

Blue Dragon: Has a bit of a spice to it, like Cumin. However, it sizzles in your mouth, and sends little shocks of joy down ones spine.

Black Dragon: Another poisonious meat. However, this one can be salvaged, if cooked right. Not as good as Green though.

I've yet to decide on how the other dragons would taste. That is how it is in my game though.

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Posted - 08 Jul 2008 :  16:29:08  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A week and a half ago, at my every-other-week gaming group, we brought down and blue, and my wild dwarf (non-Realmsian of Realmsian design) decided to slice off a bit and eat it (it was responsible for the hobgoblins that killed his tribe). We decided that it was probably spicy, and we talked about the other colors and decided on similar results to what dracons posted above.

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Posted - 08 Jul 2008 :  16:39:29  Show Profile Send althen artren a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Spells stilled, Admins

Can we have a smiley-con of a smile with his tongue out
with a knife on one side and a steak knike in the other.
We do talk about food a lot in this forum.
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Gold Dragons: Taste exactly like Goldschlagger alcohal. Smells of
incense before cooked.
Silver Dragon: Tastes somewhat like Coors beer-silver bullet
Mercury Dragon: Poisonous, metallic taste, not real good.
Brown Dragon: Tastes like chocolate, especially sought for
Spring Celebrations (think Easter and choco bunny)
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 08 Jul 2008 :  17:08:07  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've never been keen on the idea of eating a sentient creature. I'm not vegetarian or vegan or anything (I am happily carnivorous), but if something was capable of holding a conversation with me when it was alive, I don't want it on my dinner plate. This is something that carries thru to my PCs.

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Hawkins
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Posted - 08 Jul 2008 :  17:59:22  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I've never been keen on the idea of eating a sentient creature. I'm not vegetarian or vegan or anything (I am happily carnivorous), but if something was capable of holding a conversation with me when it was alive, I don't want it on my dinner plate. This is something that carries thru to my PCs.
I normally wouldn't consider it, but it was in character for this character.

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althen artren
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Posted - 08 Jul 2008 :  19:05:39  Show Profile Send althen artren a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If cows would talk, what would they say before you turned them into cheeseburgers?

As an orc, I ate the fingers of other orcs.
Haven't really done any eating sentient creatures myself.
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by capnvan

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I've never been keen on the idea of eating a sentient creature. I'm not vegetarian or vegan or anything (I am happily carnivorous), but if something was capable of holding a conversation with me when it was alive, I don't want it on my dinner plate. This is something that carries thru to my PCs.



Interesting point. Particularly given that many of those dragons, and other carnivorous beasties aren't nearly so discriminating. After all, how many times have you heard/played a dragon who toys a bit with his perfectly sentient (well, they are PCs, so I may be overdoing it, I suppose) prey?



Yeah, dragons do it. But they generally have a low opinion of non-dragons, even if they can talk to them.

*shrugs* There are a couple of things in roleplaying that bug my modern, real-world sensibilities. And eating sentient critters is one of them. I've also never really liked the standard thing of looting dead bodies, though I've had my characters do it often enough.

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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 :  03:37:55  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wooly, your point about not eating sentient creatures is precisely the one enforced by the DRAGON editor who once deep-sixed one of Ed's articles ("Dragon Soup"), a collection of monster-use recipes (my "horrid favourite" was Baked Stirge On Toast) that a previous DRAGON editor had specifically asked Ed to write.
So it's a stance that has been taken "officially" before.
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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 :  04:17:12  Show Profile Send Pasta Fzoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I've also never really liked the standard thing of looting dead bodies, though I've had my characters do it often enough.


And which, I believe, has been standard practice in warfare (at least in the West) for millennia.

As to the topic at hand: metallic dragons taste like sweet, noble virtue... Er, uh, that is to say... *disappears with a puff of smoke and whiff of brimstone*
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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 :  05:57:53  Show Profile  Visit Murray Leeder's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The Draconomicon, the second edition FR product, had some lines on this, as I recall.

I too wrote a short story on this subject, called "Wyrm Food," which appeared in the anthology Fantasy Readers Wanted -- Apply Within. It involved a mad gourmet who hires a dragonslayer to retrieve a dragon brain for him.
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Brother Accam
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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 :  06:25:57  Show Profile  Visit Brother Accam's Homepage Send Brother Accam a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Wooly, your point about not eating sentient creatures is precisely the one enforced by the DRAGON editor who once deep-sixed one of Ed's articles ("Dragon Soup"), a collection of monster-use recipes (my "horrid favourite" was Baked Stirge On Toast) that a previous DRAGON editor had specifically asked Ed to write.
So it's a stance that has been taken "officially" before.
love,
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Any chance of seeing this article included elsewhere sometime in the future THO?

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For me, it would depend on the character I was playing whether or not they'd eat sentient creature flesh, if they even knew what it was in the first place.

I don't have a problem with characters eating sentient creature meat, properly prepared of course, but it also highly depends on the creature type too. Dragons and other monstrous beings are sufficiently non-anthropomorphic enough to consider putting on the menu, but humanoids are right out, and considering all the other vile and debased things adventurers do during their careers, and have committed upon them, what's on the menu can be have just as much fantasy flavor to it as discovering a new type of magic. Just because we wouldn't eat it doesn't mean Merle the Monster Slayer/Cook doesn't see the potential.

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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 :  19:39:02  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There's just one hole in your logic, Wooly.

In FR (or any fantasy setting, for that matter) you can 'talk' to just about anything, just by using magic.

Just ask any Urdunnir Dwarf who had an argument with a rock after he used it as a slingstone.

So you can indeed talk to cows, which to me, makes the idea of eating it afterwards pretty damn gross.

I'd eat it's quiet friend, though.

Bizarre Question that just lept to mind:
Would a Minotaur (one of the more 'civilized' types, like from Taladas) get really mad if he caught you eating a hamburger? Would he even eat one himself?

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Edited by - Markustay on 09 Jul 2008 19:40:38
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