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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 14 Jul 2016 :  17:59:02  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by The Masked Mage

For those who did not know where Sage got that one, its from Volo's Guide To All Things Magical, where there is a description of the Seven Lost Rings.

Actually, there's an earlier reference, as I recall.

I'm going from memory, but Mhzentul was first mentioned [along with the events pertaining to Wooly's question] in the 1e FR boxed set.



He's in the OGB, and also in Pages from the Mages -- which is actually quoted, in part, in Volo's Guide to All Things Magical (formerly a suppressed work ). Since he was in Pages from the Mages, there's a fair chance he was also in a Dragon article, even before the OGB.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Barastir

So, Sage, which is your question?
Okay.

Since I'm slowly working my way back into Candlekeep, I'll keep this relatively easy:-

Teuveamanthaar is a city of which ancient realm?

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George Krashos
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Posted - 15 Jul 2016 :  08:31:18  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Again, I'll let someone else have a crack.

I remember the good old days when there was no Google and you had to wrack your brains and thumb through the sources.

That's why when I came up with my recent question, I made sure that it was Google-proof at first instance.

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BadCatMan
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Posted - 15 Jul 2016 :  09:27:45  Show Profile Send BadCatMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Who needs Google? :) Teuveamanthaar is a city of Eaerlann, and its capital.

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The Masked Mage
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Posted - 15 Jul 2016 :  10:07:44  Show Profile Send The Masked Mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BadCatMan

Who needs Google? :) Teuveamanthaar is a city of Eaerlann, and its capital.


Durned Aussies and your late night shennanigans! :P

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BadCatMan
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Posted - 15 Jul 2016 :  11:13:29  Show Profile Send BadCatMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Late afternoon, actually. :)

What's on the back of what's on the back of a lieko? ;) (Repetition intended.)

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George Krashos
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Posted - 15 Jul 2016 :  14:01:55  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have no idea if that is even a question ...

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The Sage
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Posted - 15 Jul 2016 :  14:29:53  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BadCatMan

Who needs Google? :) Teuveamanthaar is a city of Eaerlann, and its capital.

Correct.

'Tis your turn now, my fellow Australian.

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Posted - 15 Jul 2016 :  14:33:26  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

That's why when I came up with my recent question, I made sure that it was Google-proof at first instance.
I remember doing that a great many times back when this challenge was first gaining momentum.

I'll admit that my last question was relatively easy to look up, but I'll also promise that when I next issue a challenge, Google will definitely NOT prove to be any scribe's friend.

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BadCatMan
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Posted - 16 Jul 2016 :  08:56:15  Show Profile Send BadCatMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No answer? Time for a hint.

The lieko should be shining as much as the body of water it's found around.

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George Krashos
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Posted - 16 Jul 2016 :  11:14:17  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What in the Realms is a "lieko"??

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 16 Jul 2016 :  23:38:34  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I thinks it's a coin.....gold?? Or was it hrasted silver!!! (Uthgardt.... Uth... Ult....the origin escapes me)

But I can't recall what's on the front or back.

Hopefully some scribe can take that and finish the answer.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 17 Jul 2016 :  04:29:44  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BadCatMan

Late afternoon, actually. :)

What's on the back of what's on the back of a lieko? ;) (Repetition intended.)



Now that Red has aimed me at the correct answer, I must ask for clarification of the question... As I see it, there are two correct answers, depending on how you look at it.

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The Sage
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Posted - 17 Jul 2016 :  04:56:34  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

I thinks it's a coin.....gold?? Or was it hrasted silver!!! (Uthgardt.... Uth... Ult....the origin escapes me)

But I can't recall what's on the front or back.

Hopefully some scribe can take that and finish the answer.

The only answer that springs to my mind is a NORTHERN JOURNEY tidbit referencing a golden lieko as among the coins circulating in Doegan.

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BadCatMan
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Posted - 17 Jul 2016 :  08:30:36  Show Profile Send BadCatMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Red Walker and the Sage are right, the lieko is indeed a gold coin circulating in one realm. The Red Walker is close, but on the very opposite side of the continent. The Sage is much closer.

The image on the back of the coin shows something on the back of something else. What is that first something?

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George Krashos
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Posted - 17 Jul 2016 :  09:41:46  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A knight.

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BadCatMan
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Posted - 17 Jul 2016 :  10:46:59  Show Profile Send BadCatMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's it! The lieko is the gold coin of Ulgarth (not Uthgardt!) in the Shining South, by the Golden Water (hence it shining as much as the body of water ). On the front is an image of King Caladorn the Wise. On the back is a mounted knight, so the knight is on the back of the horse.

All from the 2nd-edition The Shining South and found online only on the Forgotten Realms Wiki.

Over to Krashos!

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 17 Jul 2016 :  15:45:28  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thankee. When I found the answer, I was thinking that the knight is on the horse's back -- but he's got armor on his. Thus, my request for clarification.

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George Krashos
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Posted - 17 Jul 2016 :  16:20:58  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hyaline is a gem but also the name of a settlement. Where is it located?

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The Sage
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Posted - 18 Jul 2016 :  04:21:45  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Hyaline is a gem but also the name of a settlement. Where is it located?

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George, have you been peeking into my campaign playbook?

I just happened to feature this locale during a set of adventures back in February for my then-recently reconstituted gaming group.

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George Krashos
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Posted - 18 Jul 2016 :  04:51:02  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Considering you're checking sources on the Nelanther and then Hyaline's location, it seems hard to avoid your Faerun-spanning campaign.

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The Sage
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Posted - 18 Jul 2016 :  04:57:38  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Considering you're checking sources on the Nelanther and then Hyaline's location, it seems hard to avoid your Faerun-spanning campaign.

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The need to push outward, I think.

My players were becoming exhausted with my near-continuous campaigns set in and around the Border Kingdoms.

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George Krashos
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Posted - 19 Jul 2016 :  00:35:28  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Okay time for a hint: Long-lived People live there.

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Adhriva
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Posted - 19 Jul 2016 :  01:24:57  Show Profile  Visit Adhriva's Homepage Send Adhriva a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's a Sea Elf settlement in Lake Sember. Score one for drawing too many maps of Cormanthor and the surrounding areas. I should check this thread more often

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George Krashos
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Posted - 19 Jul 2016 :  05:30:46  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Adhriva gets the prize. Over to yo9u and your question.

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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 19 Jul 2016 :  13:23:31  Show Profile Send Artemas Entreri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Do you guys ever sprinkle in some Zakharan trivia??

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Adhriva
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Posted - 19 Jul 2016 :  13:31:38  Show Profile  Visit Adhriva's Homepage Send Adhriva a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dreams are funny things, the imagined reality of worlds better or worse given shape and scarcely shared, least they break a lonesome spell. What is "Maeral's Dream"?

Edit: to make it easier to see the question a few replies in.

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 19 Jul 2016 :  15:40:44  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmmm...I remember a Marael in a novel(logical since 90% of my realms k owl edge comes from novels), but do not recall a dream.

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The Sage
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Posted - 19 Jul 2016 :  15:45:12  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Artemas Entreri

Do you guys ever sprinkle in some Zakharan trivia??

I seem to recall a very specific question focused on a particular reference about Zakhara in an Al-Qadim product... way back, so I can't see why further Zakharan or Maztican queries can continue to feature again.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

Hmmm...I remember a Marael in a novel(logical since 90% of my realms k owl edge comes from novels), but do not recall a dream.


Ill give you Bonus points if you can tell me who Maeral is too

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