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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
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Christopher_Rowe
Forgotten Realms Author
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 Posted - 28 May 2009 : 21:56:57
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Originally posted by Fillow
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Before they came into conflict with Nar tribes, how did the inhabitants of Lethyr stop the southward expansion of Great Glacier ?
Those were the elves of Lethyr, right? And they used High Magic. I'm getting this from the entry at -2465 DR in The Grand History of the Realms. |
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
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Christopher_Rowe
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 29 May 2009 : 13:55:04
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Originally posted by Fillow
Right Chirstopher
the floor is yours...
Thanks, Fillow!
What are the last known whereabouts of the Tethyrian wizard noble, Evonne Linden? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 29 May 2009 : 15:13:23
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| Huh. I know where to read about that NPC (and I knew Chris would go there), but I'm not finding her specific location. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 29 May 2009 : 19:38:15
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Christopher_Rowe
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 29 May 2009 : 20:04:36
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| There's more than one source for lore on this particular lady, Wooly! |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 29 May 2009 : 21:18:16
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Originally posted by Christopher_Rowe
There's more than one source for lore on this particular lady, Wooly!
I'll take your word for it, I guess. I've looked in all the stuff I have access to, and I can only find the one reference. |
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 29 May 2009 : 21:32:39
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Originally posted by Christopher_Rowe
What are the last known whereabouts of the Tethyrian wizard noble, Evonne Linden?
Tricky. <smirk>
Kelemvor's Realm? 
Or wherever the dead go in 4e....
She was killed in a coordinated attack on a Tethyrian town in 1469 DR. (FRCG)
If that is correct, I have nothing ready, so if anyone else would like to go.... |
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Christopher_Rowe
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 29 May 2009 : 21:44:35
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Sorry, Markus. There's more recent lore on Evonne than 1469, or the FRCG!
Whereabouts just means "where she was last seen or heard from," Fillow. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 30 May 2009 : 03:41:57
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*psst* I'm sure he's referring to the recent novel The Fanged Crown. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 30 May 2009 : 04:18:54
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A 4e novel? Well... that leaves most of us out of the loop...  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 30 May 2009 : 05:35:00
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| I figured it was something like that. I guess I won't be able to grab this one. |
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
France
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Posted - 30 May 2009 : 08:43:58
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Originally posted by Christopher_Rowe
Whereabouts just means "where she was last seen or heard from," Fillow.
Yes, Christopher, thanks.
I found it but I usually use FR books to find answers and this time I had to use a dictionary in first !
About the answer, I'm neither allowed to answer yet nor up-to-date with 4E novels... |
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
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edappel
Learned Scribe
Brazil
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Posted - 01 Jun 2009 : 21:47:01
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The Simbul
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 01 Jun 2009 : 22:46:19
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I do not think it is needful for him to have to give a hint, given that the source itself has been suggested by Rinonalyrna. Unless of course the hint is merely to confirm or deny the accuracy of her suggestion.
Also, I think it is more than reasonable for a "4th Edition" novel to be the source of the lore in question. Specifically given that it is in print and is available to the masses, whereas other sources of lore are increasingly far more difficult to come by.
Even if 4E is a subject to which people still resolve themselves to intractable opposition, it is not an excuse in my opinion for the question to be prematurely revealed or retracted. I for one have had to endure many novels of various editions just to keep up on the areas of lore that I enjoy, both for purposes of discussions with others here and elsewhere, and for maintaining a sense of campaign lore "authenticity".
I think whomever answers the question should be required (at least by honor--as 4th edition has no geas spells or rituals yet) to read the book themselves to glean the answer (edit: see reply to The Sage below). If anything else, we can use the time to come up with our own questions on esoteric subjects that require researching, referencing, and combining sparse text found across multiple out-of-print sources from which to extrapolate the answer.
As for myself, I have the book and have no aversion to reading it, however at present I am currently reading other stories and that particular one is a bit further back on my repertoire of fantasy fiction.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 01 Jun 2009 : 22:57:22
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Knight of the Gate
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 02 Jun 2009 : 00:32:49
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
As much as I would have preferred otherwise, I specifically allowed 4E questions, so as not to exclude 4E fans.
Swing and a miss, Wooly! |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 02 Jun 2009 : 01:09:29
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Originally posted by The Simbul
I think whomever answers the question should be required (at least by honor--as 4th edition has no geas spells or rituals yet) to read the book themselves to glean the answer.
I'm not entirely sure I agree with that. After all, searching the internet for an answer to a particular FR trivia question has been perfectly acceptable before, especially with regard to questions pertaining to DRAGON/DUNGEON content. Not every scribe has access to every issue, so it's sometimes appropriate to use such sites as the DragonDex to identify the source of a particular question in order to find the answer.
By the same principle, those without certain 4e FR novels -- either because they haven't yet purchased them, or because they may not have been released in a specific country at the time -- should still be able to participate in the game, even if they've derived their answer from searching the web.
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Knight of the Gate
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 02 Jun 2009 : 02:09:00
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by The Simbul
I think whomever answers the question should be required (at least by honor--as 4th edition has no geas spells or rituals yet) to read the book themselves to glean the answer.
I'm not entirely sure I agree with that. After all, searching the internet for an answer to a particular FR trivia question has been perfectly acceptable before, especially with regard to questions pertaining to DRAGON/DUNGEON content. Not every scribe has access to every issue, so it's sometimes appropriate to use such sites as the DragonDex to identify the source of a particular question in order to find the answer.
By the same principle, those without certain 4e FR novels -- either because they haven't yet purchased them, or because they may not have been released in a specific country at the time -- should still be able to participate in the game, even if they've derived their answer from searching the web.
Which is another reason to (maybe?) keep the questions to stuff that's been in production for at least a year. I've read from Sage and other scribes from Oz that many products take up to a year to reach them- so in the interest of fairness (as well as to avoid spoilers of new materials that people haven't had a chance to read as yet), maybe the rules could be adjusted in this direction? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 02 Jun 2009 : 03:19:57
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Well, for me personally, I've never seen or received any RPG products [whether they be sourcebooks or novels] a year behind the scheduled release. At most, RPG releases here can sometimes be up to a month to three months behind the US release date. But that's largely it.
Alternatively, shipping to Australia can sometimes take longer. And if a particular sourcebook or novel rapidly sells out after its initial publication, it can be weeks or even months before another shipment arrives.
I don't think this would really affect the participation of certain overseas scribes when answering questions from sources recently released in the US/UK/Europe. As I said above, the web can be a worthwhile resource for those individuals who, like myself, may, at times, be a bit behind the latest releases. |
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The Simbul
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 02 Jun 2009 : 05:54:56
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Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by The Simbul
I think whomever answers the question should be required (at least by honor--as 4th edition has no geas spells or rituals yet) to read the book themselves to glean the answer.
I'm not entirely sure I agree with that. After all, searching the internet for an answer to a particular FR trivia question has been perfectly acceptable before, especially with regard to questions pertaining to DRAGON/DUNGEON content. Not every scribe has access to every issue, so it's sometimes appropriate to use such sites as the DragonDex to identify the source of a particular question in order to find the answer.
By the same principle, those without certain 4e FR novels -- either because they haven't yet purchased them, or because they may not have been released in a specific country at the time -- should still be able to participate in the game, even if they've derived their answer from searching the web.
Initially after only briefly reading the opening page of the thread, I came across this:quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
Suggestion?
New Rule:
8. All answers should be from your own knowledge base - checking your own references is fine, but simply looking up the answer on the web is to be discouraged.
If I was at home right now, I'd have the answer, because Wiki pointed me directly to the source. 
and I assumed it was part of the challenge rules.
Therefore, that is the reason why I initially suggested that anyone answering the question should read the book rather than perform an internet search. After reviewing the contents of the thread in more detail, I have since realized that it was presumably not adopted.
At the very least, I suppose all that matters is that the searching and the answering themselves implore people to read the sources, either immediately to find an answer or as an aftereffect of inspiring curiosity. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 02 Jun 2009 : 06:31:50
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That was merely a suggestion on my own part, and it was discussed and I agrreed with the others here who thought otherwise.
Everyone may participate in their own way. As for me, I only 'go looking' for something if it is something I recall, but that is how I, personally, have my fun, and for each person it is different. I also enjoy looking through the books themselves, because I am always discovering new things, rather then just searching my PDF's (but thats just me, as I have said).
Any way a person can come up with the answer - it's all good.
Also - I think it may have been my comment that made you think that we weren't 'allowing' 4e lore. I was just showing my disdain over my own lack of knowledge in that area, which I share with many others here - NOT the 4e lore itself.
Lore is lore, and if we had more 4e questions, we'd all learn more about it.
Whether we want to or not is a whole 'nother story. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 02 Jun 2009 : 07:52:31
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quote:
Originally posted by The Simbul
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by The Simbul
I think whomever answers the question should be required (at least by honor--as 4th edition has no geas spells or rituals yet) to read the book themselves to glean the answer.
I'm not entirely sure I agree with that. After all, searching the internet for an answer to a particular FR trivia question has been perfectly acceptable before, especially with regard to questions pertaining to DRAGON/DUNGEON content. Not every scribe has access to every issue, so it's sometimes appropriate to use such sites as the DragonDex to identify the source of a particular question in order to find the answer.
By the same principle, those without certain 4e FR novels -- either because they haven't yet purchased them, or because they may not have been released in a specific country at the time -- should still be able to participate in the game, even if they've derived their answer from searching the web.
Initially after only briefly reading the opening page of the thread, I came across this:quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
Suggestion?
New Rule:
8. All answers should be from your own knowledge base - checking your own references is fine, but simply looking up the answer on the web is to be discouraged.
If I was at home right now, I'd have the answer, because Wiki pointed me directly to the source.
and I assumed it was part of the challenge rules.
Therefore, that is the reason why I initially suggested that anyone answering the question should read the book rather than perform an internet search. After reviewing the contents of the thread in more detail, I have since realized that it was presumably not adopted.
At the very least, I suppose all that matters is that the searching and the answering themselves implore people to read the sources, either immediately to find an answer or as an aftereffect of inspiring curiosity.
Ah, I see. I'd forgotten that particular discussion.
Regardless, I do believe my earlier position is still the most relevant and appropriate course, for the most part -- especially for those currently without particular sources and who want to participate. This trivia challenge was set up, after all, with the intention of trying to include just about every scribe. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 02 Jun 2009 : 07:56:21
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Originally posted by Markustay
Everyone may participate in their own way. As for me, I only 'go looking' for something if it is something I recall, but that is how I, personally, have my fun, and for each person it is different. I also enjoy looking through the books themselves, because I am always discovering new things, rather then just searching my PDF's (but thats just me, as I have said).
I agree. I've especially enjoyed the fact that some of the more obscure questions asked previously [and which I haven't immediately been able to answer], compel me to hunt through some of the oldest sources that I haven't looked at in quite a while. Often, I'll lose track of what I was searching for, or forget about the trivia challenge, and just continuing reading with my head buried in one of those archaic FR tomes. It's always rewarding to re-discover some old piece of lore that I may have forgotten. 
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Christopher_Rowe
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
879 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2009 : 14:51:05
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Sorry for the delay on the hint--I'm workshopping this week and internet access is spotty.
So, from high in the New Mexico mountains:
Yep, Rino named the source. ;) |
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
France
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Posted - 02 Jun 2009 : 19:14:51
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Whatever the source of the answer is, I'd like that either the answerer or the questioner gives the source of the lore.
By this way, I could add the source in the Q&A thread, the one you all read before asking in this thread...
Indeed, it could be useful for any scribe who would like to go further about such a topic. |
"Today is a good day to smile",
Fillow Big'n'Book Mahlemiut 'Lead-dog', Son of Garl, Wanderer of the Masked Leaf and Namer of Oghma.
- Fight in the arena and have fun ! : La brute.com
- Feel free to take part to these projects : Post-Spellplague bibliography ; 4E index project ; Taverns and inns of the Realms ; Dogs of the Realms ; Descriptions of places in the novels ; forums, RPG, FR Abbreviations and Acronyms
- Come and have a look at the already asked questions from the Forgotten Realms Trivia Challenge
I am a French FR fan, so please forgive my lapses in English language and do not hesitate to correct me. Thanks a lot. |
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