| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| Matt James |
Posted - 07 Dec 2010 : 01:38:33
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/drfe/20101206
Some good Realmslore nestled within and details some regions. For those not familiar, Shifters are like Were-creatures. |
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| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 24 Nov 2014 : 03:52:15
quote:
Originally posted by Fellfire
After having read Legacy of Wolves an Eberron novel authored by Marsheila Rockwell, I can confirm that 1. Shifters are unaffected by silver, other than run-of-the-mill greed (though I think it might make an interesting handicap, that as a DM I may reward with an extra Shifter feat) and 2. Shifters can, in fact, be afflicted by lycanthropy. Assuming, of course, we take for granted that novels are considered canon.
I believe that the Eber-whatsit novels were not, in fact, canon.
And either way, I really dislike the idea that someone born with a stripped-down version of lycanthropy would be just as susceptible to it as a regular human. |
| Fellfire |
Posted - 24 Nov 2014 : 00:56:51
After having read Legacy of Wolves an Eberron novel authored by Marsheila Rockwell, I can confirm that 1. Shifters are unaffected by silver, other than run-of-the-mill greed (though I think it might make an interesting handicap, that as a DM I may reward with an extra Shifter feat) and 2. Shifters can, in fact, be afflicted by lycanthropy. Assuming, of course, we take for granted that novels are considered canon. |
| Fellfire |
Posted - 23 Nov 2014 : 05:04:30
I guess. They don't really conform to the traditional shifter traits, but when has that stopped anybody? Though mechanically no different than various yuan-ti breeds. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 23 Nov 2014 : 00:45:55
quote:
Originally posted by Fellfire
Also, under the Tethyr heading in teh OP article mentions the noble Janors of Zazesspur as the descendents of wereserpents that can shed their skins. What shifter trait do they inherit? How do they differ from Yuan-ti?
Options, off the top of my head:
A bite attack
The ability to spit poison
Scales covering their skin for increased AC
Some sort of grapple/Dexterity bonus |
| Fellfire |
Posted - 22 Nov 2014 : 18:39:17
Also, under the Tethyr heading in teh OP article mentions the noble Janors of Zazesspur as the descendents of wereserpents that can shed their skins. What shifter trait do they inherit? How do they differ from Yuan-ti? |
| Fellfire |
Posted - 22 Nov 2014 : 18:27:35
From 394... "Shifters are thought to be blessed by Malar, bestial exarch of... Silvanus." What?! I just can't reconcile these 4e changes. |
| Fellfire |
Posted - 22 Nov 2014 : 17:56:28
Cooler than wereskunks, though those might have really sweet hair-do's in their human aspect |
| Fellfire |
Posted - 22 Nov 2014 : 17:49:44
I have both the Eberron Campaign book and Races of Eberron but I can find no definitive answer in either. Thanks for the linky, x, Wooly.
On a somewhat related note, wereporcupines, thoughts? |
| xaeyruudh |
Posted - 22 Nov 2014 : 16:41:49
quote:
Originally posted by Fellfire
Does anybody know if this was a Dungeon or Dragon article mentioned in the OP? If so, what number, please?
Also for shifter afficionados, a few questions, if I may. Do shifters suffer from any of the vulnerability to silver of their antecedents? Are shifters able to contract lycanthropy?
Dragon #394. Here's an updated link to the summary blurb.
Shifters are outlined in the 3.5e MM 3. I don't see anything there about vulnerability to silver or lycanthropy, but it does suggest checking the Eberron Campaign Setting (which I don't have) for more shifter feats. (Edit: I agree with Wooly.)
I dunno if "Sage Advice" or an equivalent is still running in Dragon, but that would be the place to check for canon answers to questions unanswered in the books.
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| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 22 Nov 2014 : 16:34:52
quote:
Originally posted by Fellfire
Does anybody know if this was a Dungeon or Dragon article mentioned in the OP? If so, what number, please?
Also for shifter afficionados, a few questions, if I may. Do shifters suffer from any of the vulnerability to silver of their antecedents? Are shifters able to contract lycanthropy?
Dragon 394.
The Eber-whatsit campaign book did not mention either thing. I don't know what 4E did to the race.
In my opinion, shifters would not have issues with silver, and I'd either make them immune to lycanthropy, or more highly resistant than most -- after all, they are basically born with a stripped-down version of it. |
| Fellfire |
Posted - 22 Nov 2014 : 16:19:33
Does anybody know if this was a Dungeon or Dragon article mentioned in the OP? If so, what number, please?
Also for shifter afficionados, a few questions, if I may. Do shifters suffer from any of the vulnerability to silver of their antecedents? Are shifters able to contract lycanthropy? |
| Brimstone |
Posted - 10 Dec 2010 : 03:45:52
Outstanding news Chris!! |
| Christopher_Rowe |
Posted - 10 Dec 2010 : 02:05:26
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone
Neat. I added Shifters to my 3E games, by making them People of the Black Blood..
I never played 3E (though I'm playing in my first ever Pathfinder Society games next Saturday, so I'm finally starting to get all the "crunch" bits in my 3.0/3.5 Realms library), but this is exactly what I've done in my 4E Realms games. |
| Brimstone |
Posted - 10 Dec 2010 : 00:03:48
Shardminds in the Realms would be nice... |
| Diffan |
Posted - 09 Dec 2010 : 23:40:49
Definitely a great article. Really gives some good ideas, character hooks, and the mechanics are actually quite good.
Now can we get some stuff for Warforged, Changelings, and Shardminds?  |
| The Sage |
Posted - 07 Dec 2010 : 16:24:57
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone
The Psionic Eberron race could be spun as the descendents of Jhaamdath and the 12 Cities of the Sword...
Already on it. Or, at least I was, back when Dargoth was still active, and we were working on Jhaamdath-related material [for Candlekeep] together.
I'd like to see what you've got for that, if I may... It may be something I can tie into an idea of me own.
I can definitely share my half of the info... but I'll have to contact Dargoth about sharing the rest. |
| Markustay |
Posted - 07 Dec 2010 : 16:18:33
I'm VERY interested in the Rakshasa lore - sounds like some of the stuff I was working on (tying the Rakshasa into many beast-like races).
Too bad its DDi... maybe someday....  |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 07 Dec 2010 : 16:08:54
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone
The Psionic Eberron race could be spun as the descendents of Jhaamdath and the 12 Cities of the Sword...
Already on it. Or, at least I was, back when Dargoth was still active, and we were working on Jhaamdath-related material [for Candlekeep] together.
I'd like to see what you've got for that, if I may... It may be something I can tie into an idea of me own. |
| Alisttair |
Posted - 07 Dec 2010 : 13:22:04
Thanks Matt. I'll let one of my players in my campaign know since he is playing a Razorclaw Shifter Avenger taht worships Kelemvor. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 07 Dec 2010 : 06:01:23
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone
The Psionic Eberron race could be spun as the descendents of Jhaamdath and the 12 Cities of the Sword...
Already on it. Or, at least I was, back when Dargoth was still active, and we were working on Jhaamdath-related material [for Candlekeep] together. |
| Brimstone |
Posted - 07 Dec 2010 : 05:56:14
The Psionic Eberron race could be spun as the descendents of Jhaamdath and the 12 Cities of the Sword... |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 07 Dec 2010 : 04:46:39
quote:
Originally posted by Fellfire
Boy, that would be great if I was a DDI. I do love the Shifters and have imported them to FR, a shame (ahem) I don't play 4e and that information isn't available to me.
Ditto.
I've long felt that shifters and changelings are two races that would be very easy to import into the Realms. The racial backstories are easy to tweak, and they'd certainly fit in readily enough, at least in small numbers (not more than a dozen or so in a good-sized community). |
| Brimstone |
Posted - 07 Dec 2010 : 03:14:24
Neat. I added Shifters to my 3E games, by making them People of the Black Blood. Great Ideas in this article... |
| Ayrik |
Posted - 07 Dec 2010 : 03:03:05
I liked this article, very useful stuff (for me, anyhow - it helps flesh out my Rakshasas a bit ...).
I notice that much of the discussion (at wizards) complained this is all fluff and no crunch. I don't understand the problem - the crunch is (and has always been) in whatever monster manuals your version of D&D uses, the fluff has never really been presented in any meaningful way (or if it has, then I missed it). I like giving the shifters some "identity" of their own instead of just copying whomever they look like.
Thanx Matt. |
| Fellfire |
Posted - 07 Dec 2010 : 02:27:52
Boy, that would be great if I was a DDI. I do love the Shifters and have imported them to FR, a shame (ahem) I don't play 4e and that information isn't available to me. |
| The Sage |
Posted - 07 Dec 2010 : 02:22:12
Neat. While I'm not so sure I'd use shifters in the Realms, I'm already brimming with ideas about incorporating this material into my existing RAVENLOFT campaign.  |
