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Aryalómë
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  00:04:04  Show Profile Send Aryalómë a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Could someone direct me to a good source of the good ol' sex demons? (FR please) And how would someone go about playing one?

Fellfire
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  00:07:20  Show Profile Send Fellfire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not strictly FR, but SuccuWiki has a LOT of great art, though some of it is pretty racy. And a lot of great info besides.

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Aryalómë
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  00:09:10  Show Profile Send Aryalómë a Private Message  Reply with Quote
On incubi? Racy incubi artwork? :D
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Ayrik
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  00:12:43  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wikipedia and FR Wiki have many pages about (D&D, fantasy, and mythological/historical) succubi. The various monster entries provide basic information for playing one.

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Fellfire
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Yep, and all the FR named demons (incubi, succubi, etc.) are there too. It's a pretty good source.

Dang! I forgot my Username/Password there. Hmmm.

Misanthorpe

Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.

"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises

Green Dragonscale Dice Bag by Crystalsidyll - check it out


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Aryalómë
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  00:25:51  Show Profile Send Aryalómë a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Could someone make an example of how to play a monster race pease?
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The Sage
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  00:37:00  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The various 2e Planescape Monstrous Compendiums remain some of the best sources.

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Aryalómë
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  01:00:36  Show Profile Send Aryalómë a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't really have any expirience... I don't have anyone to play with. I jist make characters and write out their story lnes. But I'd like to make an Incubs 4e style a least. I have no clue how to do that. The only place in 4e, that I inw of that has Incubi is in the Demonomicon, which, for some reason, left out Succubi.
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Alystra Illianniis
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That's because they are basically the same thing. They can change their sex. In D&D lore, and incubus/succubus can be either male or female, depending on the mood/requirement of situation, ect.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  03:09:38  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tradwitch1313

Could someone make an example of how to play a monster race pease?



Depends on the race.

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Ayrik
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  03:15:27  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The "mood and situation" really depend on the fiend's target. More specifically, on assuming the gender/form which best exploits that target's preferences.

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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  03:17:53  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's sort of what I was getting at. Whichever gender would tempt the victim the most.

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Fellfire
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  03:17:55  Show Profile Send Fellfire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not quite true Alystra. While Succubi can change shape, Incubi were given a separate write-up somewhere. I remember the picture being awesome. A goat-legged, shark-toothed demon with horns like an ORYX. I wish I could remember where I saw that. It had a very Planescape feel to it. Probably 2e, but possibly 3rd. I believe they were foot soldiers and assassins in the Blood War.

Misanthorpe

Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.

"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises

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jordanz
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  03:27:56  Show Profile  Visit jordanz's Homepage Send jordanz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What is the result of an Incubus/Succubus pairing?
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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  03:37:22  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
AFAIK, the incubus in Planscape was under the succubus heading. If there was a separate listing for them somewhere, it was probably elsewhere. Maybe the 3rd ed BoVD or Fiend Folio? The creature you are describing sounds more like a goat-demon (forgot the name) or Possibly Baphomet, who is a major demon. There is also the Cambions, but they don't match that appearance. Planescape had succubi as shape-shifters who could take a male form if desired. (my hubby says they did have a heading somewhere, but he doesn't know where. A PS MM, perhaps? But the box set only described them together, as a dual-sexed being.

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Fellfire
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  03:45:33  Show Profile Send Fellfire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Lilitu deserves a mention here.

This demon could easily be mistaken for a beautiful woman at a glance, a lithe and graceful figure destined to inflame desire in those around her. A closer look, however, reveals sharp talons, vacant white eyes, and cloven feet, distorting and perverting that beauty into something far more disturbing. Burnt and broken fragments of wings protrude from her back, and her four writhing, ten-foot-long, sting-tipped tails give testament to her ruinous nature.

The sly and seductive lilitus are masters of mocking the divine. They infiltrate temples, corrupt priests, and slowly convert their victims to the worship of the demon lords.

pp.43-44 Fiendish Codex I

Misanthorpe

Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.

"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises

Green Dragonscale Dice Bag by Crystalsidyll - check it out


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The Sage
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  03:55:48  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by tradwitch1313

Could someone make an example of how to play a monster race pease?



Depends on the race.

Indeed.

And, besides, most of the relevant "Monster" and "Race" books published by Wizards and other third-party publishers provide more than enough examples for many characters of this type.

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Fellfire
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  03:57:18  Show Profile Send Fellfire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I found it in Dragon #353 in the Demonomicon of Iggwilv: Malcanthet. I'm searching for a pic on the 'net.

HERE. 3/4 of the way down, beneath all the kanji.

Misanthorpe

Love is a lie. Only hate endures. Light is blinding. Only in darkness do we see clearly.

"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises

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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  04:15:58  Show Profile Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Can I get that in English, Alex?

The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.

"Where Science ends, Magic begins" -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491

"You idiots! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -Spaceballs

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Aryalómë
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  20:26:14  Show Profile Send Aryalómë a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Incubi and Succubi are seperate in FR thankfully. It has said that Succubi are specifically women and vice-versa. Does anyone know where good lore can be found on them? Seeing as I only have the FR player's guide, it would be hard for me to attempt an oncubus. Fellfire, if you can, can you make me a 3.5e incubus?
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Ayrik
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  21:18:48  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just to be a pedant: the vice-versa on that statement would be "it is said that women are specifically succubi", which is actually something I can't entirely disagree with.

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ChieftainTwilight
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Posted - 15 Mar 2011 :  21:25:19  Show Profile Send ChieftainTwilight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
well, I have played 3rd edition and 3.5 edition, and the Monster Manual states in the Succubus entry that an Incubus is just what you call a male Succubus. they use the same stats.

and a heart can only break so many times
and I've been to hell and back so many times
and I've seen folks walk away so many times
but just like anyone else I gotta stand up by myself
and a heart can only break so many times
a heart can only break so many times
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Aryalómë
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Can someone pretty please me an Incubus Infernal Pact Warlock and an Incubus Psion? I would try to but again, I don't have any of the books handy right now.
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The Sage
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Posted - 16 Mar 2011 :  00:18:49  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Can someone pretty please... what?" I think you're missing something there.

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Aryalómë
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Posted - 16 Mar 2011 :  00:55:25  Show Profile Send Aryalómë a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oops, lol. *make me
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Ayrik
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lol, I hate to complain about such trivialities as typos and spelling errors, but ye've gotta ensure your message is readable if ye want any sort of meaningful response, tradwitch1313.

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Aryalómë
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Posted - 16 Mar 2011 :  01:15:11  Show Profile Send Aryalómë a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, I'm typing on a Nook and they have awful touch screens, so letters or words might get extremely mixeed up. I've been doing myhest lately to keep it clear.
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Fellfire
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Posted - 16 Mar 2011 :  02:55:02  Show Profile Send Fellfire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hah! I didn't even notice that. Your posts are always so jammed up. I wish someone would pretty please me. Are we still talking about Succubi?

Misanthorpe

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"Oh, you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but.. blinding. The shadows betray you because they belong to me." - Bane The Dark Knight Rises

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Aryalómë
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Posted - 16 Mar 2011 :  11:03:26  Show Profile Send Aryalómë a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Incubi and Succubi yes lol
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Erik Scott de Bie
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tradwitch, are you asking for a mechanical writeup that you could actually play in the game? And which edition did you mean (for clarity)?

quote:
Originally posted by jordanz

What is the result of an Incubus/Succubus pairing?

Probably another incubus/succubus, but it's debatable whether demons can routinely breed with one another. Does anyone know of any specific, updated ruling on the subject?

Cheers

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Zireael
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quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

tradwitch, are you asking for a mechanical writeup that you could actually play in the game? And which edition did you mean (for clarity)?

quote:
Originally posted by jordanz

What is the result of an Incubus/Succubus pairing?

Probably another incubus/succubus, but it's debatable whether demons can routinely breed with one another. Does anyone know of any specific, updated ruling on the subject?

Cheers



I know old Planescape Fiends of Evil or sth like that - the best on the topic of fiends and their evolution and looks and breeding.

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